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The OneShirt: A Phoenix from the Ashes [4/24/13 UPDATE: A SHIRTMAKER, AN ENGLISHMAN, CHAMBRAY, AND F

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by mafoofan, Mar 20, 2013.

  1. poorsod

    poorsod Senior member

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    My Smith's has made in Italy tag and the mechanism looks exactly like Talarico. Might even had been made by them.
     
  2. Cantabrigian

    Cantabrigian Senior member

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    What happened?

     
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  3. Cantabrigian

    Cantabrigian Senior member

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    Ah - I am slow.
     
  4. mafoofan

    mafoofan Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I was addressing people who think the only thing that matters is how a shirting feels to them. In their case, the material content shouldn't matter. I obviously don't belong to that school. The whole point I've been making is that you cannot rely on your fingers to assess a cloth's quality or value.
     
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  5. Victor Elfo

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    Okay, let's break this down.

    I did not state that you said that. You stated (the quote is bellow) that assuming a mistake is an embarrassment and, to that, I replied that this view would only perpetuate your character flaw (arrogance), which is evidenced by your participation on this forum. Point, no more, no less.


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    If your understanding about it changed, you changed. Common, I sure that you can keep up to this.
    My point is that you had the stuff on your hands and you still saw potential on it, but, after acknowledging that it has polyester on it, now you see it as crap. It still feels the same, it still has the same properties.
    So, your first judgment was based on what? In my opinion, mainstream opinion.
     
  6. mafoofan

    mafoofan Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    God. I am not saying, "assuming," or expressing in anyway that a mistake is embarrassing. It was a statement about what OTHERS should believe, at the worst, about me--in contrast to their belief that I am somehow aggrandizing myself by retracting an endorsement. Your English is not doing you any service and your arrogance is manifesting in your insistence on arguing on this point, despite your handicap in understanding what is being discussed.


    This is a blatant falsehood. The quality of a thing is not exclusively defined by what it feels like. If it were, we would have no need of knowing what fibers any material is made of. Why mention if something is cashmere, wool, silk, etc.? Just feel it!


    My opinion is that you are a pest. You have barely 200 posts on this forum, and already you cannot get in a discussion with me without commenting on character and motivations.

    I will delete all your future posts in this thread.
     
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  7. Manton

    Manton Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I think the paul stuart guys stick to you like glue because they are paid on commission and they want to grab you as soon as it looks like you might make a purchase. Herzfeld was like that too.
     
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  8. mafoofan

    mafoofan Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Maybe, but not in my case. I asked for help with the belts, and he just said: "They're right there in front of you." They didn't ask for my bag, they grabbed it from me and simply informed me that it would be at the cash register.

    Herzfeld is great. But I get awesome service all over New York. Because New York doesn't blow.
     
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  9. archetypal_yuppie

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    Commission may be a sales motivator for them, but I think the stickyness is just store policy. At the top of the stairs in the NYC store, there is always one salesman that is "at bat," and they'll follow you around unless you ask for someone else.

    Downstairs, if you come to a stop in someone's section, the nearest salesperson grabs you.
     
  10. mafoofan

    mafoofan Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I understand the idea of "stickiness." Remember, I've been to both NYC and Chicago stores. What I'm describing is only a problem at the Chicago location. There's a difference between being attended to, and being scowled at.
     
  11. sugarbutch

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    Gentlemen, what Foo describes is not stickiness. Let's accept that his Chicago experience was crap and move on.
     
  12. archetypal_yuppie

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    Note that my quote was refuting "when it looks like you're gonna make a purchase" by manton, not contradicting foo's assertion. I don't think they wait until you look like you're gonna buy, I think they engage right away (typically).
     
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  13. Kuro

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    Herzfeld is closed btw.



    this has always been my experience there and it is a bit annoying.
     
  14. Journeyman

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    Salvatore's too busy making trousers on behalf of his friends at The Armoury, so I suspect that you'll be waiting a very long time for a satisfactory resolution!
     
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  15. Master Shake

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    Eleven pairs of trousers is an awful lot. Hopefully things work out.
     
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    Apparently your mentor Mariano Rubinacci is not bothered by polyester, as he almost exclusively wears the SG chambrey ! :hide:
    :bigstar:
     
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  17. Cantabrigian

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  18. Luc-Emmanuel

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    Well, yes it is. If you iron your shirts yourself, you know instantly if a cloth has polyester in it.
    !luc
     
  19. Cantabrigian

    Cantabrigian Senior member

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    I've apparently ironed a part polyester shirt for over a year now and had no idea it was polyed up.

    I disliked the cloth for other reasons but my polydar is apparently not as finely tuned as yours.
     
  20. aravenel

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    Seriously. I took a look at his tumblr once and all it was was pictures of him making pents for the Armoury folks. Clearly they have no issue getting him to deliver--and yet it's been nothing but trouble over here.

    Guess you have to regularly wine and dine him to get delivery.
     

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