The OneShirt: A Phoenix from the Ashes [4/24/13 UPDATE: A SHIRTMAKER, AN ENGLISHMAN, CHAMBRAY, AND F

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  1. mafoofan

    mafoofan THE FOO Dubiously Honored

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    I wear cufflinks with odd jackets, much to everyone else's chagrin.
     


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    There isn't a consensus, but there's no reason not to wear them if you want to. Most wouldn't wear them with odd jackets, but it appears that at least Foo and I do.
     


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    irgendwas Well-Known Member

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    I like minimalist shirts, but I would not want two shirts to be the same.
    I prefer shirts to have the following characteristics:
    • White, cream, light blue, pink or light grey (maybe medium blue, lilac or tan)
    • Solid, semi-solid, narrow evenly spaced stripes or small evenly spaced check (I have mixed feelings about graph checks)
    • No more than one sort of coloured yarn (i.e. no multi-gingham or tattersall)
    • Semi-spread or button-down collar
    • Button cuffs
    Because of my fondness for textures and various (decent) colours, achieving a wardrobe full of different minimalist shirts isn't difficult.
    I think gingham is underrated, although I don't like large gingham checks.
     


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    DocHolliday Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    How is that different than every peacock that populates SF?
     


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    mafoofan THE FOO Dubiously Honored

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    Context, conviction, taste, and execution.
     
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    DocHolliday Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    A lot of what both the DoW and Astaire wore in later life is absolutely awful. Would get them stoned out of the good taste thread. Don't make me dig up pictures.

    You could argue they're compelling cases for your philosophy, but not in the manner you're suggesting. You're digging a hole here.
     


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    mafoofan THE FOO Dubiously Honored

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    Did I say the greats were infallible? To put a finer point on things: to the extent they are admirable for their style, it is for sticking to a coherently distinguishable manner of dressing. When they depart from that, all bets are off.
     


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    Not really a consensus on this. Many hate this look and think cufflinks only appropriate for suits, or maybe a navy blazer with odd trousers. I like the look and feel of cufflinks and wear them almost exclusively when I am wearing a dress shirt of any kind. I've done this for about 7 years now. I've yet to meet anyone who's been negatively affected enough to say something.
     


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    Fuuma Franchouillard Modasse

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    Not to restart this bullshit but I'll have to go w. Foo, most of my shirts last 2 yrs or something when worn regularly; maybe my disgusting pits yellow the shirts, something rips, frays or whatever but those 5 y/o shirts are those that rarely get worn.
     


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    Ya. Italians mostly leave candy coloured stripes and FC to anglo-saxons. Not saying they're right but that's how it is.
     


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    DocHolliday Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    The point is, the Duke was a sensation not because he complied with tradition but because he defied it. Astaire too. At their best, they balanced surprise with sobriety. They're an argument for restraint, not austerity.
     


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    Where on earth did I say style had anything to do with complying with tradition?
     


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    DocHolliday Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Here's what you said:


    Both the DOW and Astaire experimented to their dying day. Neither was the better for it, which goes to your intended point but not to the one you made.
     


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    If a person dresses a certain way for decades and is very stylish, then in his older years begins to "experiment" more, resulting in poor results, that only goes to reinforce my point.
     


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    The bolded is exactly what I said, not once but twice. But they didn't "dress in a certain way for decades": Astaire and the DOW experimented all their lives. That's what the Duke, in particular, was known for. He defied convention, set the fashions. But eventually their dandyism got the best of both of them.
     
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