The OneShirt: A Phoenix from the Ashes [4/24/13 UPDATE: A SHIRTMAKER, AN ENGLISHMAN, CHAMBRAY, AND F

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by mafoofan, Mar 20, 2013.

  1. FlyingMonkey

    FlyingMonkey Senior member

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    I would suggest that someone truly self-confident and of superior character would merely calmly demonstrate this and not need to assert it, and that the assertion of confidence and superior character over others can in fact demonstrate its opposite. That is all.
     
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    I'm only about halfway through the thread, but have you considered the one-shirt for business and one-shirt for casual? They can even be the same fabric, but the business would be spread collar and single cuff and the casual would be BD and barrel cuff. I realize this is two-shirt, but aren't business and casual two completely different environments where there is not one perfect shirt that meets both needs, but there is one perfect shirt for each?

    I wear almost exclusively blue shirts with a spread collar and barrel cuffs myself. I do have one white shirt also with barrel cuffs and one white shirt with links along with one pink shirt. But, my blues vary in terms of fabric- i gravitate to one though and have multiples made up in the same fabric so I can wear it more than once a week, though. And, the pink is the same fabric, just a different color.
     
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  3. mafoofan

    mafoofan THE FOO Dubiously Honored

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    We're here to discuss style. If we cannot assert what we think makes for good style, what the hell are we doing here? Like I said, this is why everything degenerates into a kop-fest.

    Self-confidence is an absolutely necessary component of style. Indecision implies the lack of self-confidence.
     
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  4. mafoofan

    mafoofan THE FOO Dubiously Honored

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    I will no doubt need a buttondown solution sooner or later, as my MTM Brooks OCBDs will need replacement and never had the perfect roll. However, I'm in no dire need right now, so I'd be happy if this batch of OneShirt is entirely business-leaning.

    If I have them them done with buttondown collars (and barrel cuffs), I'll still wear them for business. A spread collar would be more ideal perhaps, but I hold to the principle that a buttondown is always fine for business wear in America.
     
  5. clapeyron

    clapeyron Senior member

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    Here's how I solved the cuff versatility on my Oneshirt:


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    I am anxiously awaiting my nomination for what ever the nobel prize equivalent there is in fashion for this invention.
     
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    Foo is a very funny creature.
     
  7. mafoofan

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    Ah, now I understand.

    But it's not for me. I have zero problem wearing links every day. My only issue is whether to get a buttondown collar (which would mean barrel cuffs), and whether to get a single or double cuff if I don't.
     
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    As a diligent student of Foo(tm), I would like to ask you about what I see as a slight contradiction in your preferences:

    - you rightfully claim that when wearing patterns, two or three are the best (http://www.tweedinthecity.com/2013/02/01/pattern-matching-have-some-principles/)
    - you expressed an opinion against wearing a tie and pocket square as the only patterned elements, on the basis that this makes them stand out as pure decorative elements

    But when you wear a solid suit with one of your OneShirt, the only option left which matches these preferences is all solids. Do I understand it right?
     
  9. Manton

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    Get the spread collar for these, then get the BDs down the line. I would not make my OneShirt a BD if I had to wear it for business in NY, in finance, every day.
     
  10. archibaldleach

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    If you're going to have an OCBD option no matter what for more casual purposes, I'm not sure I see the value of them being your OneShirt, especially if you wear a jacket and tie frequently. Shouldn't the OneShirt reflect your lifestyle and typical wardrobe sources? I realize you can wear a OCBD with a suit and most normal people in the US will not care, but I'm not sure I'd consider it optimal.
     
  11. mafoofan

    mafoofan THE FOO Dubiously Honored

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    You are dead-on correct. This is why the OneShirt can never be the only shirt in my wardrobe.


    You are probably right. It would also save me the headache of trying to orchestrate the buttondown fitting.


    Good points. I feel myself being moved.
     
  12. DocHolliday

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    Duke of Windsor? Are his answers in the crazy plaid suits, the inappropriate use of suede shoes or the father-infuriating formalwear?

    Maybe the answers are in Astaire's necktie belt? Like a silken money belt, only filled with answers.
     
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  13. sugarbutch

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    Witty, Doc. Witty. :D
     
  14. mafoofan

    mafoofan THE FOO Dubiously Honored

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    Yes and yes. No matter how unorthodox certain choices may have been at the time, they were characteristic of the wearer.
     
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    ah okay. I went with these George Costanza meets Ted Kennedy cuffs because I rarely wear cuff links since they come of as slightly age and/or rank inappropriate on me but I still didn't want to entirely pass on the possibility.

    what's the consensus on wearing cuff links with every outfit? e.g. Victor SF wearing golden dunhills with contrast seam jeans trousers.
     

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