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The Official Wine Thread

Discussion in 'Social Life, Food & Drink, Travel' started by audiophilia, Jul 20, 2009.

  1. Piobaire

    Piobaire Senior member

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    I don't have the answer to that one but I have to think a better wine maker will do more with any given fruit than a poor one.
     
  2. Cary Grant

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    Yes - well, not false modesty if meant cynically, but yes.

    A crap winemaker could do damn all with any grape A skilled maker can nurse crap grapes along to something marginal... and make symphonies out of perfect grapes and seasons.
     
  3. venividivicibj

    venividivicibj Senior member

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    But I do think the top tier makers usually already have access to great grapes, and therefore having a good vintage helps the mid-tier (giving them grapes of a much higher quality than normal) much more than the upper echelons (who always had the best anyway).
     
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    Happy Malbec day everyone!

    When I first had it, I didn't have good makers, and probably drank it a little young. Now, I like it quite a bit. Just need some large formats for a proper cookout


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  5. Piobaire

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    Ah, I see. Well, the Berg wine is a wine I like a lot....for $10. It's completely drinkable, even quaffable, but it's not a wine to inspire or sip searching for an array of flavours and smells. It's just a nice drinking/food wine for $10. I mean, I've had more complex Zins than this Cab (for $30-40 a bottle mind you), but for what it is the Berg is an incredible value.
     
  6. Manton

    Manton Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    1996 Gloria yesterday. Probably a bit young, but perfect bottle and delicious. One of the cheapest of the good Bords and, relative to its peers, it always out-performs.
     
  7. erictheobscure

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    ^ I know you're the biggest enemy of infanticide around these parts, but for godsakes 1996 is when I graduated from high school. Surely a Bord has had sufficient time to develop in the time that I've gone from tannic high school graduate to ripened paragon of manhood.
     
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  9. erictheobscure

    erictheobscure Senior member

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    hey man I'm young in wine port years
     
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  10. Manton

    Manton Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Still a bit tight and primary for me.
     
  11. erictheobscure

    erictheobscure Senior member

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    I've had my fair share of vintage '89's
     
  13. venividivicibj

    venividivicibj Senior member

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    We talking about girls or wines
     
  14. lawyerdad

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    Not sure why you're taking such a narrow view.
     
  15. venividivicibj

    venividivicibj Senior member

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    Sorry, I should have included guys (didn't know HRoi and GF were in this thread)
     
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  16. Principle

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    Is Francis Mallmann in our midst? Also how do I do South African wine? Tried an eight year old Chenin Blanc last night and it tasted like savory butter.
     
  17. erictheobscure

    erictheobscure Senior member

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    Acquire pinotage.

    Dump pinotage down drain.

    Drink something else.

    Whatever you drink will be enhanced by the sweet relief of not having to drink pinotage.
     
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  18. venividivicibj

    venividivicibj Senior member

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  19. Principle

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    That's a strong response, what's wrong with pinotage?
     
  20. jcusey

    jcusey Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Sadie Family Wines. All of them that you can get your hands on.
     
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