I was trying to encourage through asking him to describe what he meant. I expected to hear something about steeped tea, etc. I've honestly never heard tannins described like that...and I'm just this side of noob myself...so do not know what to make of it. I guess maybe his list of wines he likes should have clued me in. So Rambo, here's a suggestion: a nice Russian River Valley Pinot. So basically give them the same treatment M&M gets in the dinner thread?