The Official Wine Thread

[Piobaire]



In my experience it is a pretty standard way to describe the concept. I mean, who learns the vocabulary of a hobby before they even start in on it. More wine drinkers is more better, so let's encourage him.

I was trying to encourage through asking him to describe what he meant. I expected to hear something about steeped tea, etc. I've honestly never heard tannins described like that...and I'm just this side of noob myself...so do not know what to make of it. I guess maybe his list of wines he likes should have clued me in.

So Rambo, here's a suggestion: a nice Russian River Valley Pinot.

personally, i think it's a lot better to smack the noobs around as much as we can. first, it thins the herd, reducing consumer pressure and lowering prices. It also prepares them for life in the wine world, like the first time they mistake a lesser cotes de nuits for morgon in a tasting group. finally, it's just so much fun. Win. Win. Win.

So basically give them the same treatment M&M gets in the dinner thread?

 

[Cary Grant]

You gotta like friends that give you wine... especially by the case, and especially with 4 bottles of Cristom and 3 of Poderi la Collina among the spoils.

 

[itsstillmatt]

A very underappreciated wine, especially with poultry...

 

[Piobaire]

Had an 07 Vacqueyras last night. Paid $18 for it but I think I overpaid. I think I'll stay away from that region and put the last couple of bottles I have from there into my next charity auction case.

 

[kwilkinson]

What producer is it? No hate, but you seem to have a habit of buying randomly from a new region and then judging that region by those random bottles. Itd be more fruitful if you found bottles from well known producers and then wrappedbyour head around a region that way. Just a humble opinion from a guy with twenty yeara less drinking experience than you.

 

[erictheobscure]

My first few experiences with Vacqueyras wines were at a wine bar in New York (Queens, actually, but don't judge--it's nice) and I really enjoyed it for the price. But my last few attempts here in PA have been disappointing, and I'm starting to agree with sentiments expressed here that Vacqueyras isn't so great.

Kwilk, you have any good producers in mind?

 

[itsstillmatt]



My first few experiences with Vacqueyras wines were at a wine bar in New York (Queens, actually, but don't judge--it's nice) and I really enjoyed it for the price. But my last few attempts here in PA have been disappointing, and I'm starting to agree with sentiments expressed here that Vacqueyras isn't so great.

Kwilk, you have any good producers in mind?

It's just a hard area because it has always been a cheap CdR, but now with more interest in the region, more plonk is being exported. Sang des Cailloux probably makes the best, but it is relatively expensive. Le Colombier makes a nice one and it is often under $20. Nearby there is a wine I like very much that is somewhat similar called Lirac. The one from Joncier is consistently great and an excellent bargain.

 

[erictheobscure]



It's just a hard area because it has always been a cheap CdR, but now with more interest in the region, more plonk is being exported. Sang des Cailloux probably makes the best, but it is relatively expensive. Le Colombier makes a nice one and it is often under $20. Nearby there is a wine I like very much that is somewhat similar called Lirac. The one from Joncier is consistently great and an excellent bargain.

Cool, thanks for the recs.

 

[kwilkinson]

My friend swears by Montirius, but ive never had it. Perrin et fils is another good one and ive had a couple vintages of the cailloux matt mentioned and it is good. Ill have to check out colombier

 

[Piobaire]



My friend swears by Montirius, but ive never had it. Perrin et fils is another good one and ive had a couple vintages of the cailloux matt mentioned and it is good. Ill have to check out colombier

Had the Perin and sons and liked it. My other "random" ones were ones that various pros have tasted and recommended. Which is also another issue. If you do not know the "pros" palate you are taking a stab in the dark. At least with Parker you know what he's looking for.

 

[gomestar]

I focus a lot on ratings. If Parker loves it, I'll be certain to not buy it.

 

[kwilkinson]



I focus a lot on ratings. If Parker loves it, I'll be certain to not buy it.

This is why you like Burgundy so much

 

[gomestar]

I do love burgundy. Bordeaux is great so is Tuscany and Piedmont and dozens of other places. But the more I have of the others, the more I love a great burgundy.

 

[kwilkinson]

Speaking of parker and burg, did any of you catch the shitstorm about turley's newsletter claiming it was better than DRC? It wasnt the turley label, but their pinot label that I cant recall the name of righr now

 

[gomestar]

thanks to google, I am now in the know. Good work, Turley.