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The Official Wine Thread

Discussion in 'Social Life, Food & Drink, Travel' started by audiophilia, Jul 20, 2009.

  1. Piobaire

    Piobaire Not left of center?

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    Well, has anyone trusted a Frenchman in a non-blind tasting since '76?
     


  2. tattersall

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    I had three this weekend: Domaine Fontsainte Gris-de-Gris, Gros 'Nore Bandol Rose and Tempier Bandol Rose - all were 2010. The Tempier was obviously the star but the other two, at lower price points, held their own too. The Gros 'Nore was the most "rough" and a bit astringent at times; Fontsainte was smooth and very drinkable but without much 'wow'; Tempier showed perfect balance and was extremely refreshing. All were drunk outdoors and chilled on ice, afternoon temp was mid 80s - perfect style of wine for the occasion.
     


  3. foodguy

    foodguy Senior member

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    the fontsainte was my house pour a couple of summers ago. i'll have to get some more. i get plenty of "wow" from the sinskey. what i'm looking for is a backyard wine ... just somethingto drink with tomatoes and eggplant.
     


  4. itsstillmatt

    itsstillmatt The Liberator Dubiously Honored

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    The Fonsainte has been our house summer wine for several years. I think it is still $12 a bottle or less.
     


  5. tattersall

    tattersall Senior member

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    Price is definitely right on the Fontsainte - I just wish I smuggled legally imported more from Seattle as I can't seem to get it up north.
     


  6. patrickBOOTH

    patrickBOOTH Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Could a more experienced wine drinker offer some insight to my Bordeaux issue above? (Post #10023)
     
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  7. foodguy

    foodguy Senior member

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    different wines. it's important to remember that you're not buying a standardized product, like a chevy or a volkswagen. wines made from the same mix of grapes, even from the same vineyards can taste very different depending on the ability of the winemaker.
     


  8. tattersall

    tattersall Senior member

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    Well I haven't tried either of these but I would first say that both are very young for BDX and that '09 is considered a much better vintage than '07. That said, what were you looking for in these wines and what aspect of the second wine did you like? The second is a generic blend from a producer with a great pedigree and marketing savvy, the first is from a minor unclassified chateau better known for it's whites. My guess is the Rothschild wine has been expressly vinified for immediate drinking hence it was a better experience for you; maybe the Fage was sleeping, but sour is never something one hopes to find in wine outside of vinegar...
     


  9. patrickBOOTH

    patrickBOOTH Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I've basically been trying to find a Bord that is on the cheaper side and also just try bords from different areas. When I first tried the first Chateau the finish was just horrible. I was thinking that it was corked. The Rothschild was very balanced in my opinion. It had apparent fruit flavor characteristics with a touch of tannins at the finish. I've said this before in this thread, but I always liked 2005 bords. I don't think I had a bad one ever even at a lower price point, however they have begun to get rarer and much more expensive.
     


  10. foodguy

    foodguy Senior member

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    it's hard to figure what you mean by "sour", whether it could be natural acidity, volatile acidity or acetic acid (last two are flaws; first is just a taste thing). corkiness is not at all sour-ness. it's a real bad smell, like wet cardboard or wet dog.
     


  11. gomestar

    gomestar Super Yelper

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    I was going to say, corked is something I notice right up front and not as a aftertaste
     


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    Tonight I had a bottle of 1995 Kalin Cellars Chardonnay. Oldest Chardonnay I've ever had, and far and away the tastiest. Just really good. Quite dry, nice acidity, balance, fruity enough, and a touch of tannin from the oak that has in the 16 years since the grapes have left the barrels, receded into the background.
     
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    I have to think that Chard making it that far is a bit of an aberration.
     


  14. patrickBOOTH

    patrickBOOTH Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Just as a follow-up in case anybody cares, I had that Chateau in my top picture on the right, the Saint-Emilion last night. Of course it is very new, but the woman at the wine shop said that it is already drinking well. She was right, I actually think it was the best out of the three I had recently.
     


  15. kwilkinson

    kwilkinson Having a Ball

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    Do you mean THAT chard as in the Kalin, or do you mean any Chard?
     


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