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The Official Wine Thread

Discussion in 'Social Life, Food & Drink, Travel' started by audiophilia, Jul 20, 2009.

  1. gomestar

    gomestar Senior member

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    A question for Pio - why Cali Pinot Noir? What is it about them that you're drawn to? Discuss...
     
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    My wife bought one. We've only tried so/so bottles, $15-20. I have to say, it makes a very cool sound when you use it right. [​IMG] I think it does instantly aerate the wine. I'd not use it on a good bottle, as for me, part of the pleasure is the slow change in the glass.

    +1 on the cool noise it makes!

    I ususally use it only for the first half glass so that there's more surface area in the bottle to help the natural aeration/breathing process...until I can get a proper decanter...by the time I've fully appreciated, savoured and take note of my first impressions of a wine an hour has passed and the rest of the bottle is ready to go sans Vinturi.
     
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    A question for Pio - why Cali Pinot Noir? What is it about them that you're drawn to? Discuss...

    I don't like the French?
     
  4. gomestar

    gomestar Senior member

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    I don't like the French?

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  5. Piobaire

    Piobaire Senior member

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    If you just mean in general, PN is my favorite varietal, and I just enjoy CA (along with Oregon and WA) pinots. I've never once had an old world that matched them at the given price point. I'm not Vox, I can't afford a dRC with every meal.
     
  6. audiophilia

    audiophilia Senior member

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    Love CA Pinots like Edwards, Freeman and Sanford (my favourite).

    I've really enjoyed Maysara Jamsheed for Oregon. The Sarah Powell from Oregon was too funky for me.

    I'm always up fro trying new Pinots, tho. My fav varietal.
     
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    fair enough. What about the Kiwis? I have found many of them to be quite similar to Cali in style, though my experience with fine Cali pinots are certainly limited (no Peay in NY State [​IMG] ).
     
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    Piobaire Senior member

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    Love CA Pinots like Edwards, Freeman and Sanford (my favourite).

    I've really enjoyed Maysara Jamsheed for Oregon. The Sarah Powell from Oregon was too funky for me.

    I'm always up fro trying new Pinots, tho. My fav varietal.


    I find Oregons are like that; real "barnyard." It's why I almost always decant Oregons, as it will blow off. I find Oregons tend to be more old world, and the further north in CA you go, the more old world too. Peay is easily the most old world PN going in CA, that I can think of. I have several of their '5 Scallop Shelf and I'd give them another two years before I crack my next one.
     
  9. gomestar

    gomestar Senior member

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    I have found the same with Oregon Pinot Noir, similar in style to French while the Cali is similar to New Zealand.

    Of course exceptions exist.
     
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    Piobaire Senior member

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    fair enough. What about the Kiwis? I have found many of them to be quite similar to Cali in style, though my experience with fine Cali pinots are certainly limited (no Peay in NY State [​IMG] ).

    I've had a couple of enjoyable Kiwi PNs, but nothing yet to compare with a good (great) CA.
     
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    I've had a couple of enjoyable Kiwi PNs, but nothing yet to compare with a good (great) CA.
    +1 I'm hoping Central Otago starts producing some gems.
     
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    ...Peay is easily the most old world PN going in CA, that I can think of...

    Hmmm, maybe I'll have to give Peay another try. I remember last year trying their PN on one or two different occasions and having a "it's nice but nothing exceptional" experience. But then again, maybe it was just the context of the tasting.

    Which is another interesting wine question/topic: Ever had your experience with a wine -- same year, vintage, maker, etc. -- vary quite a bit? I have. I usually chalk it up to differences in me rather than differences in the bottle.

    How about you all?
     
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    We had this nice Burgundy at the SF SFO meetup. Was good, but the 2005 Merry Edwards Pinot we had first was IMO much better.

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    Neat-o...did you snap this with your phone when I wasn't looking? [​IMG]

    I must admit that as much as I enjoyed the Merry Edwards that night, I actually preferred this one. To me it was a bit mellower yet still rich in some way. I'm sorry, I'm terrible at describing tastes.

    I've been kind of on a Burgundy kick the past 2 months, maybe because I've had so much Cali PN over the previous ~9 months anything different seems like a refreshing and enjoyable change. In general I've had a good run of luck with Nuit St. Georges. Which was why I picked that one... [​IMG]
     
  16. audiophilia

    audiophilia Senior member

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    Yes, binge, at the meetup dinner. [​IMG] I really liked it. More than Jan. But the Merry Edwards for me was superb. The wines, usually the CAD$20 - $30 variety that I have drunk consistently (a least 10 bottles of each) have been very consistent. Lucky, I guess. 2005 Hess Cab 2005/6 Les Christins Vacqueyras 2005/6 JLohr Cab 2005/6 Kenwood Pinot 2005/6 Penfolds Hyland Shiraz
     
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    a few that i've tried @ work and liked...

    Stag's Leap Artemis Cab
    Clos Du Bois Cab
    Clos Du Val Cab
    Marques de Caceres Rioja
    Ruffino Ducale Chianti
    Beringer Knights Valley Alluvium Red (?)
    Jordan Cab
    Franciscan Cab
    Permutations (forgot who made it...)

    mostly $2X range... except for the stag's leap... thats about $55...
     
  18. gomestar

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    Which is another interesting wine question/topic: Ever had your experience with a wine -- same year, vintage, maker, etc. -- vary quite a bit? I have. I usually chalk it up to differences in me rather than differences in the bottle.

    How about you all?


    I have, though to be fair I rarely taste the same wine twice.

    I think it's fascinating when the same glass changes over a 5 minute period. The Alban shiraz did that to me, utterly mesmerizing nose.




    Tonight I killed a bottle of Italian Falanghina. Quite nice, acidity like a surgical razor on the tongue. I would have liked a little more complexity, but the massive dose of acidity made it a perfect wine for the vat of Italian food the gf made for dinner tonight (including fried zucchini hearts!).
     
  19. audiophilia

    audiophilia Senior member

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    2002 Shafer Hillside Select Cabernet
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    Duckhorn Vineyards
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    Viader Vineyards
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    Will Predhomme, Somellier at Canoe

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  20. audiophilia

    audiophilia Senior member

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    Stag's Leap Artemis Cab
    Franciscan Cab


    +1
     

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