The Official Wine Thread

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  1. Piobaire

    Piobaire Not left of center?

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    Also, it's easier, so there we go.
     


  2. computerpro3

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    Speaking as a complete wine noob, I have a quick question. I received this as a birthday gift today from a very close friend (1988 is my birthday year, hence the vintage): http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/3893/imag0553.jpg http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/1769/imag0550.jpg Also, they gave me something called a "Vinturi Essential Wine Aerator." I haven't yet had the time to become knowledgeable about wine, but they left the impression that this was quite a decent bottle. Is this Vinturi thing actually worthwhile and appropriate to use on this wine or is it merely a gadget? Worse, will it damage the wine in any way? Also (and this might be a stupid question), it is important to drink this wine now or is it ok to save it for a special occasion? Will further aging affect it in anyway? What temperature should I drink this bottle at? Should I follow any decanting procedures to get the maximum flavor? Thanks for the help, I appreciate it.
     


  3. kwilkinson

    kwilkinson Having a Ball

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    Speaking as a complete wine noob, I have a quick question. I received this as a birthday gift today from a very close friend (1988 is my birthday year, hence the vintage): http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/3893/imag0553.jpg http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/1769/imag0550.jpg Also, they gave me something called a "Vinturi Essential Wine Aerator." I haven't yet had the time to become knowledgeable about wine, but they left the impression that this was quite a decent bottle. Is this Vinturi thing actually worthwhile and appropriate to use on this wine or is it merely a gadget? Worse, will it damage the wine in any way? Also (and this might be a stupid question), it is important to drink this wine now or is it ok to save it for a special occasion? Will further aging affect it in anyway? What temperature should I drink this bottle at? Should I follow any decanting procedures to get the maximum flavor? Thanks for the help, I appreciate it.
    First off, happy bday. That is indeed a nice bottle of wine. Very nice bottle of wine. [​IMG] It's a second growth from Bordeaux, and a nice one at that. Bordeaux is known for its ability to age, and this wine is no different story. 1988 is not an incredible year for Bordeaux, but it certainly isn't the loser year that my birth vintage was (87). This wine should still be drinking well and can last a few more years if you want it to. It would probably still drink great today as well. If you're going to age it, though, you may consider getting a wine fridge or asking a friend with one to hold it for you. For extended aging, it needs to be held at the right temperature. Also, drink it at around 60 degress farenheit, and I wouldn't decant it. You wouldn't want to throw off what little fruit there is remaining. The Aerator should certainly not be used for that wine. It is meant to get oxygen into a wine, so it makes more sense for wines that are young. It is basically meant to be used like a decanter in your glass. I've never used one myself, but I know that several wineries in California use them on the tasting room floor if they just opened a bottle that needs some air. They like them.
     


  4. indesertum

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    i had some mumm cuvee m with some langoustine ravioli. college student status
     


  5. gomestar

    gomestar Super Yelper

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    and I wouldn't decant it.

    great poast. But just to clarify this point, you should not decant (or aerate) this wine, but you should use a decanter as a way to remove the sediment. There should be a good amount in this bottle, and there is nothing worse than a mouthful of sediment during that last sip.
     


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    oh, and I might have some wine to poast about later, we're going out for dinner
     


  7. Mark from Plano

    Mark from Plano Lifestyle change - no homo

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    Here are the Wine Spectator and Robert Parker comments on this wine: Wine Spectator (from 2008): CHÂTEAU PICHON-LONGUEVILLE-BARON Pauillac 1988 Score: 94 Release Price: $40 Current Auction Price: $141 Country: France Region: Bordeaux Issue: Web Only - 2009 Dark brick-red color, with a garnet edge. Aromas of dark chocolate, meat and currant. Full-bodied, with a solid core of ripe fruit and round tannins. Goes on and on. Very balanced, with a beautiful mouthfeel. Long life ahead. This has always been a serious wine.—'88/'98 Bordeaux blind retrospective (2008). Drink now. 14,000 cases made. –JS Robert Parker/Wine Advocate (from 1993): 1988 Pichon-Longueville Baron Pichon-Longueville Baron A Bordeaux Blend Dry Red Table wine from Pauillac, Bordeaux, France Score: 90 The 1988 Pichon-Baron promises to be one of the half-dozen superstars of the Medoc in that vintage. While it may not rival the 1989, its significantly lower price makes it a wine that should appeal to those who want an excellent bargain in a great Pauillac from a good vintage. Surprisingly large-scaled for a 1988, it is deep in color, rich, tannic, and medium to full-bodied. When mature, it may resemble the successful 1966 (similar texture, weight, and character). Anticipated maturity: 1995-2008. Last tasted, 5/93.
     


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    Outstanding, thanks all for the help. I'll decant to remove the sediment, be careful opening the cork, and will enjoy it with good company!

    Off topic, if I'm just getting started on what I suspect will be a long journey into discovering wine, is there a default "bible", so to speak, that I should pick up and read? Something educational about the art of winemaking, types of grapes and wines, etc, etc?
     


  9. Mark from Plano

    Mark from Plano Lifestyle change - no homo

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    Going to do a simple pasta with spicy Italian Sausage and green bell peppers in a marinara-type sauce for dinner. Wine suggestions?
     


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    Outstanding, thanks all for the help. I'll decant to remove the sediment, be careful opening the cork, and will enjoy it with good company!

    Off topic, if I'm just getting started on what I suspect will be a long journey into discovering wine, is there a default "bible", so to speak, that I should pick up and read? Something educational about the art of winemaking, types of grapes and wines, etc, etc?


    karen macneil's wine bible (love her writing and descriptions)
    wine atlas
    jancis robinson's oxford companion to wines (or something like that)
     


  11. kwilkinson

    kwilkinson Having a Ball

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    Outstanding, thanks all for the help. I'll decant to remove the sediment, be careful opening the cork, and will enjoy it with good company!

    Off topic, if I'm just getting started on what I suspect will be a long journey into discovering wine, is there a default "bible", so to speak, that I should pick up and read? Something educational about the art of winemaking, types of grapes and wines, etc, etc?


    Sotheby's Wine Encyclopedia. Can't beat it. Although be forewarned, that book can get very very VERRRY in depth. It can bombard you at times with more knowledge than you might necessarily be looking for, but the answer to any question you could possibly have is in that book somewhere.
     


  12. gomestar

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    Going to do a simple pasta with spicy Italian Sausage and green bell peppers in a marinara-type sauce for dinner. Wine suggestions?

    an Italian! I like me a Dolcetto or a Barbera with sausage and pasta.

    karen macneil's wine bible (love her writing and descriptions)
    wine atlas
    jancis robinson's oxford companion to wines (or something like that)


    I like all of these and read from the Wine Atlas quite frequently.
     


  13. Mark from Plano

    Mark from Plano Lifestyle change - no homo

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    an Italian! I like me a Dolcetto or a Barbera with sausage and pasta.
    The only Eye-Ties I have in the house are a 2001 Barolo (Fontanafredda) a Muscato d'Asti (probably not) and a Prosecco (which I'm having right now in a Kir Royale). All of my other Eye-Tie reds are in storage, but are all Barolos and Brunellos.
     


  14. indesertum

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    Sotheby's Wine Encyclopedia. Can't beat it. Although be forewarned, that book can get very very VERRRY in depth. It can bombard you at times with more knowledge than you might necessarily be looking for, but the answer to any question you could possibly have is in that book somewhere.

    sounds like my kinda book
     


  15. kwilkinson

    kwilkinson Having a Ball

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    sounds like my kinda book

    It's a great resource. It's one of the suggested readings by the Court. It just makes yer brane hurt sumtimes.
     


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