And from what I'm reading here, these expensive Cali Cabs need 'SERIOUS' laying down time. For connoisseurs, wouldn't it be better to spend a little more on the front end on great Bordeaux and Burgundy futures, and use the time to create known high value masterpieces, personal taste notwithstanding? see, that's the other part of the deal. i'm a big cali booster in most things (gotta be!). but for many of those cali cabs, there is absolutely no track record for aging. people say they need to be laid down because they're undrinkable now. but that doesn't necessarily mean that they'll be drinkable in 15 years. they may just be another kind of undrinkable. Personally, I think it's madness. but then, I don't think I've ever spent more than $60 to $70 for a bottle at retail.