The Official Wine Thread

[Piobaire]



Just got back from Burgundy. I'll post my loot later (brought back 9 bottles). It was an amazing trip. Stayed at Saulieu and made our way through the region to taste each day. I didn't think I'd like it as much as Montalcino but the wines were better and the countryside and, surprisingly, the food, were just as spectacular.

Need Burgundy pics too.

 

[Eustace]



Need Burgundy pics too.

 

[aravenel]

Wife and I are going to Eleven Madison Park for our birthdays in a couple of weeks. Have already started looking at the wine list Have to say, I am impressed at how fair many of the markups are. Especially compared to our last celebratory meal, Per Se.

 

[gomestar]

agreed, EMP has a very good list for solid prices.

the list at Per Se is the equivalent of a middle finger extended towards the diner.

 

[patrickBOOTH]

Maybe even two middle fingers.

 

[aravenel]

Yeah, I was very surprised at how egregious the Per Se markups were. We had a great meal, and absolutely enjoyed ourselves... But the wine list was painful.

Looking at the EMP list online (which may likely be different from what they actually have), my only disappointment thus far is that I wish they had a larger back catalog of aged Rieslings. They do have a huge selection of Rieslings, which I have to commend, but almost all of them are 2010, 2011, or from a recent vintage (2007, 2008) that may have started to shut down. Would be nice to see something I can't get at Crush or CSW.

 

[idfnl]



agreed, EMP has a very good list for solid prices.
the list at Per Se is the equivalent of a middle finger extended towards the diner.

Have you noticed restaurants cutting the lower priced stuff out of the list completely?

In some contexts I get it, but I ate at a place about a year ago that had $20 entrees and the cheapest red on the list was $80. GTFO.

There are some fantastic examples of the opposite like 2 Amy's in DC which all the wines are cheap and they're all good but the trend seems to be to thin the list of lower priced stuff.

 

[itsstillmatt]

I do hate wine lists these days.

 

[gomestar]



Looking at the EMP list online (which may likely be different from what they actually have), my only disappointment thus far is that I wish they had a larger back catalog of aged Rieslings. They do have a huge selection of Rieslings, which I have to commend, but almost all of them are 2010, 2011, or from a recent vintage (2007, 2008) that may have started to shut down. Would be nice to see something I can't get at Crush or CSW.

that's one of the meh things about the Per Se list. Hugely overpriced for very recent vintages.

 

[Eustace]

A couple shots of Burgundy. I have to post my loot later. Nothing crazy (no La Tache or Romanee-Conti) but I got some interesting stuff.

 

[audiophilia]

I was surprised at the Jean Georges list. Not the prices, which seemed quite fair, but the choices. For others, it may have been the perfect list, but for us, the lack of Rhones and US wines made the list incomplete. The sommelier, however, was wonderful and was his presentation.

 

[audiophilia]

Lovely, Eustace. Thx

 

[coolpapa]

99 Peagau tonight, what a beautiful wine. A great expression of CdP and, for my tastes, totally ready to drink. What a pleasure.

 

[gomestar]



I was surprised at the Jean Georges list. Not the prices, which seemed quite fair, but the choices. For others, it may have been the perfect list, but for us, the lack of Rhones and US wines made the list incomplete. The sommelier, however, was wonderful and was his presentation.

IMO their list is very well suited to the food they serve

 

[Slewfoot]

Good stuff Eustace! I'm there right now and having a blast.