I finally found Shell Cordovan. Brooks Brothers Penny Loafers, #8 black 06602, size 9.5D - Available. I think they need a little care from someone with the know-how, but don't need to be re-soled. Great find chotii. Fyi, #8 is a color so it is either #8 or black. Also fyi, we have a shell specialist on ST. I won't say his name but it starts with a W and ends with an S.