**The Official Shoe Care Thread: Tutorials, Photos, etc.**

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Mr. Moo, Feb 28, 2011.

  1. cbfn

    cbfn Senior member

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    You're being obtuse. grit getting into the creases starts as a tiny scratch, but results in leather fibre breaking over time. The wearability of the shoe to a large extent is determined by the presence of holes in the creases that develop from many things and exacerbated by dirt and dust in these creases that these products attract.

    How do these products attract dust? Really? It is just the basic properties of the ingredients. Anything waxy, or oily substances get stuck on and just the particles in the air alone get stuck on it as opposed to a smooth surface where they just blow along. I know people who do little, if anything to their shoes that are without cracks I feel this is one of the reasons. I have had way too many bad experiences using too many products on my shoes. I'll say it again, these products make your shoes shiny, but the chemistry behind them actually doing anything beneficial, or nourishing to the structure of the leather is weak.
     
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    Thank you everyone for your input on this topic. It's these kinds of conversations that teach me the most about shoe care.

    I've been trying to put a decent shine on the toe and heel of a pair of shoes and I think I had a little too much water on the unfinished surface of the toe for too long and had spots appear. (Pictured below.) I was using GlenKaren paste wax for reference though I think that had nothing to do with it.

    I get raised water spots with other shoes on the off occasion when they get a little wet but I've never seen such a drastic change in color. I'm hoping these go away when they dry up, as they do with my other pair. However in the event they don't does anyone have a clue on what to do?

    It's normal tap water. I have the Glenkaren conditioner/cleaner but I didn't want to use any more product until I had an idea of what is going on.

    Thanks

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    patrickBOOTH Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Let it sit overnight and tomorrow out a bit of renomonnit and buff it. If it is still drastic you might have to strip the wax and redo the mirror shine. Those kind of spots is generally moisture trapped inbetween the leather and the wax.
     
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    Thank you pB, do you mean Renomat? I don't currently own it but I have the GlenKaren cleaner/conditioner which I've noticed removes wax and polish quite effectively. Perhaps I can try using that on one of the smaller spots off to the side?

    I just don't want to put anything on it to make it worse. If it's moisture between leather and wax, I can handle that.

    Thank you!
     
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    Just let it dry for a few days. It might just go away into a dull spot.
     
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    Which colour of saphir wax would you use for tan scotch grain CJ?? I bought a "yellow" saphir wax tin, but im afraid to use it because it seems a bit "too yellow"...anyone has already used this colour for tan grain?
    Would it be better to use neutral wax for this shoes?what i dont want is to change the original colour (i assume that they will get a bit darker with age but i dont want to accelerate the natural process of the leather...) can anyone give me some advice in order to properly care my tan scotch grain cj shoes?thank you very very much!!
     
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    Neutral would be the ticket......
     
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    The seller told me that yellow wax of spahir was the proper tin for tan grain shoes...that is the reason why I asked here before applying it....nevertheless, if I want to "restore the colour", which saphir colour may I use?thank you!
     
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    Oh...I didn't read anything about restoring color...sorry.

    In reality, cream would be the product to use to add/restore color.....to any shoe. Wax - even tinted wax - is more for protection and shine.

    Note also that, since you mentioned a scotch grain, this leather will need more work to add color than a smooth calf since the leather has been stamped; basically closing the grain. Just a little more time required.
     
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    All right!so If i have understood...cream for restoring the colour and neutral wax for polishing and shining the shoes...
    It would be, although, great if to hear if someone has already used yellow saphir wax for tan grain shoes...thanks a lot
     
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    Very doubtful that "yellow" would change the colour much. Restore the colour yes, but as long as the cream/wax is a shade lighter than the leather it isn't going to darken the leather, that's for sure. The yellow might add a bit of a "glow," but that's about all it's going to do.
     
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    I recently acquired a few tin cans of burgol wax polish which is considered a premium wax. Regardless of how hard I try, I struggle to get a good shine from it - something which I manage easily with kiwi or AE or even loake wax. My technique is the simple - little bit of wax plus a drop of water using an old cotton t-shirt. Anyone have this problem ?
     
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    Yes I have found Burgol to be the most difficult to get a good shine out of Saphir, collonil and Boot black, and of course Kiwi.
     
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    I bought a tin of Saphir's yellow wax, just to see what it was like. I tried it on an old pair of tan shoes. It didn't change the colour (the yellow is very pale). It did add what I can only describe as a 'sparkle' to the shoes. I wouldn't imagine you could do much harm with it.
     

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