**The Official Shoe Care Thread: Tutorials, Photos, etc.**

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Mr. Moo, Feb 28, 2011.

  1. halfnhalfnhalf

    halfnhalfnhalf Senior member

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    Quite a bit, apparently! But that's the great thing about SF . . . if a thread gets tiresome, one can just move on.
     
  2. DWFII

    DWFII Bespoke Boot and Shoemaker Dubiously Honored

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    You're right. And, as long as I can get away from it I don't mind it all that much, to tell the truth...not my business. But too often it's just a placeholder in a otherwise serious (or even just interesting) discussion for people who have no rationales, no experience, no knowledge about the subjects they're soapboxing/kibitzing about. It's irritating, if not outright trolling.
     
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    No, I was thinking in terms of leather, not sores on my feet. Those pictures are from several years ago and my feet and developed thick callouses, which protect me from evil footwear.
     
  4. DWFII

    DWFII Bespoke Boot and Shoemaker Dubiously Honored

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    An update--the "straight skinny," hopefully.

    I called Bickmore (again) this morning and "braced" the representative there about the AMA interview and silicone. I was told point blank that the list of ingredients and the formulas for Bickmore products were protected, trade secrets.

    But I described the interview on AMA...along with the observation that the rep didn't seem as savvy as he could have/should have been. I also relayed the assertion by the rep that there were no silicones in Bick4.

    At which point, the person I was talking to said that there were indeed silicones in Bick4 but "less than 1%...for emulsion only."

    So, FWIW, that's from the horse's mouth.
     
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    :slayer:

    I wonder why they need less than 1% for emulsion. There's nothing natural that serves the same purpose?
     
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    DWFII Bespoke Boot and Shoemaker Dubiously Honored

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    Dunno.
     
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    Coconut Oil? :lol:
     
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    DWFII Bespoke Boot and Shoemaker Dubiously Honored

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    I always wondered about jojba oil. Supposedly it has a molecular structure that is close to whale oil.

    I wonder if Glen ever looked into it?
     
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    Thanks I now understand your point.


    As a layman I guess it means they add the silicone to help with spreadability.

    If any bick rep says bick4 doesn't contain silicones, in light of this new information, at least they are only being hypocritical less than 1% of the time. :happy:
     
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    I hear it is very similar to human sebum. FWIW, Saphir Creme Universelle has jojoba rather than mink oil like Renovateur. I think the issue with it is it might be too greasy and attract dirt and such. No idea...
     
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    But we now have so many eminent chemists why don't we ask them to explain the pros and cons of different compounds?

    Excusing the pun but this thread was awash with them last week. :smarmy:
     
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    Comments like that really help.
     
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    It might be flippant but it's true.

    A chemist is better qualified than lay people to determine which ingredients to use in a given product, no?
     
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    The key is a chemist, who also works with leather.
     
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    I know several, but I doubt they would be keen to post here and suffer the harassment and mockery others with expertise have had to bear.
     

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