**The Official Shoe Care Thread: Tutorials, Photos, etc.**

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Mr. Moo, Feb 28, 2011.

  1. patrickBOOTH

    patrickBOOTH Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    RedDevil, I see your shoeshine sundays routines and I definitely think you putt too much shit on your shoes.
     


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    Depends on the shoes and what I think they need. You're welcome to chime in.
     


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    It is really infuriating hearing all these good things about Reno, buying my first jar, using it for the first time last weekend albeit a small dab, and now hearing all this negativity from SF members, and realizing a few days ago the area in which I used Reno (toe cap) has a slight artificial wrinkling. The touch is still smooth but I can see some subtle veins in which beforehand I never noticed.

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    Appreciate if anyone can link me where to purchase cleaning/nourishing cream beside Saphir? I need black and dark brown.

    lol @ Kirby comments. I actually followed his direction on the website :rolleyes:
     


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    Stirling Senior member

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    Depends on the shoe cream. If it contains silicon and the like, well this thread is full of information on that subject.
     


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    [double post] apologies
     
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    the shoe snob has a post in his blog about using vinegar + water and rubbing it on the affected areas. Please take a look in case the other solutions haven't worked
     


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    Hi - Reno is a fantastic product.....what do you mean 'all this negativity' though? Just curious.

    As for the actual usage, can you post a pic by chance? Trying to follow 'artificial wrinkling'.....and if you are seeing veins in the leather well, that would be the leather not the product.

    Renovateur is a very gentle conditioner.....it's main active ingredient is cosmetic grade real Mink Oil - it's not a harsh cleaner by any means. It's completely natural with no chemicals or solvent (besides water, which is technically a solvent). And it is, despite some recent comments I've read here, mainly a conditioner. It's ridiculous to think that this product.....on the market since the 20's and used/sold by Hermes, John Lobb, C&J, Berluti, LV, JM Weston, Gucci and on and on, would be harmful to shoes or leathergoods. Hell, they even use it in the Louvre on ancient bookbindings from what I'm told.

    Anyway, I'd love to be pointed to some negativity so I can see if it is educated comments, maybe someone who used it incorrectly so I can help, or simply people typing away the day without much to say........that or maybe someone who has had enough of incessant advertising (me too, and I'm the distributor! It's not my deal.....) has decided to kick it around just cuse -
     


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    patrickBOOTH Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I don't like the stuff because of my experiences with it over the years. Pretty much all of my shoes that have seen the beloved reno treatment have died. I have some shoes that are much older that saw nothing but lexol in their earlier years are in better shape than the reno cared for shoes, which are all cracking.

    I have my doubts on it being water based. If it is water based why is it a creamy emulsion with no separation? There's got to be some sort of solvent in there?

    I don't believe the main ingredient is mink oil, it doesn't behave like mink oil at all when applied. It actually polishes up quite nicely, which in my experience isn't mink oil like at all.
     
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  9. DWFII

    DWFII Bespoke Boot and Shoemaker Dubiously Honored

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    I haven't got much experience with Reno...but be careful..."educated comments" aren't as prized here as we might wish, you and I.
     
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    [ATTACHMENT=8728]FT1123RENOVATEURPOMMADIERMDOGB.pdf (44k. pdf file)[/ATTACHMENT]

    [ATTACHMENT=8729]FDS-1124-RENOVATEURHUILEDEVISONMEDAILLEDOR-GR-V01-2005.pdf (39k. pdf file)[/ATTACHMENT]

    You'll have to show me sometime......you know where to find me. :cheers:

    Anything who's msds is this simple is pretty much a water based product - every other solvent requires an entry. The shine is from the beeswax.

    For these older shoes, what did you use as a polish? Also, could it have been back when we started stocking this product here and everyone seemed to just glob it on like a bath? I remember countless emails saying 'use sparingly, a little goes a long way'.

    BTW, I'm assuming my boots are still holding up well?
     


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    patrickBOOTH Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Your boots are holding up excellently.

    I just find the emulsion curious. FWIW, I like the Creme Universelle better. It seems to sink in better and be less of a "polish".

    FWIW, I think reno is an excellent product for using a dab (like half the size of a pea) for swirling on the toe and heel over a wax polish to bring life back into the shine.

    For the older shoes I was using whatever polish Barker Black was selling under their name brand. Saphir possibly. This was back in ~2006-ish.
     


  12. DWFII

    DWFII Bespoke Boot and Shoemaker Dubiously Honored

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    Rider,

    With regard to Reno...again, I plead ignorance to the ingredients and don't claim any useful experience with it. But I can read (and often do :) ), nevertheless it's not as simple as "water based"...

    From the MSD on Reno:

    "Due to the solvents present, it is recommended that polyvinyl alcohol or nitrile rubber gloves be worn"
     
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    Well I'll be.......I never noticed that. And I always spread it with my bare hands!! It's like a moisterizer!

    Damn.....gotta ask about that.

    Of course, Lexol Leather Conditioner msds says the same thing.........
     
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    As you can see in the pic from this weekend.....I use Creme Universelle mostly also - and Tarrago Balm as well.

    We never made for Barker Black. If it was French it would have been Famaco, which is heavy stoddard solvent. If it was Japan (Columbus/Boot Black) their solvent is kerosene.
     


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    I don't know how good a conditioner or a cleaner renovator is or what other better products for conditioning or cleaning are out there. But I have been using it on my shoes for a few years without any adverse effects. I have also recently started using GlennKaren cleaner /conditioner. I think GK is a good conditioner but a stronger cleaner compared to renovator. I base this simply on how much polish comes off when applying the GK product vs Renovator. With Renovator it cleans very little but GK is almost good in cleaning and removing layers of waxes like Renomat but in a more gentle way. Both the renovator ang GK cleaner have a place in my shoe maintenance program.
     
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