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**The Official Shoe Care Thread: Tutorials, Photos, etc.**

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Mr. Moo, Feb 28, 2011.

  1. mfridman

    mfridman Well-Known Member

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    Hey guys!

    Couple of questions:

    1) Do I REALLY need the Saphir Creme Renovatrice? I do have some scuffs on several pairs of black oxfords, nothing too bad - usually the wax polish does a good job with them. I've been thinking of treating the scuffs with the Renovatrice. Any experience with it?

    2) What shade of Pommadier would you advise to be used on these:
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    Dark Brown or Havana?

    Thanks!
     
  2. patrickBOOTH

    patrickBOOTH Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I've never heard of it. (Read: not necessary)
     
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    mfridman Well-Known Member

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    I always enjoy these detailed and wordy exchanges! [​IMG]
     
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    PCK1 Senior member

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    do you mean Saphir Renovateur?
     
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    No. Renovatrice is a heavy scratch and gouge filler, which then gets polished over. Also suitable for heavy edge repair/treatment. Total overkill for minor scuffs, which should come out with a cream and brushing.
     
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    tifosi Tire Kicker

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    Hmmmm. Never heard of it.
     
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    Munky Senior member

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    I think this is sold in the UK (by A Fine Pair of Shoes) as 'Saphir Renovating Cream'. It is advertised as being particularly useful as a 'welt edge dressing'. I have a tube of it and have used it on the edges of shoes. It takes a steady hand. I wouldn't want to use it on other parts of shoes, though - although AFPoS say that Renomat will remove this cream.

    I would recommend caution.
     
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    Munky Senior member

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    A bit more info from A Fine Pair of Shoes that seems to confirm my suggestion that this is Saphir Renovating Cream:

    'This little tube of coloured cream has a highly pigmented finish to re-stain leather. It can be used to fill cuts, cover scuffs and most stains. It is not intended to be used as a polish by itself, but used in conjunction with regular cream and wax polish. It is most often used as a welt edge dressing to re-colour the edge of your leather shoes. It can be removed with Saphir Renomat.'
     
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    Right...exactly as I said. Some refer to it by the French name (renovatrice) while others to the English name (renovating cream). Same thing, same applications, same cautions.
     
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    I could do with some advice here guys. I had an accident with my C&J Conistons, I split some melted butter on the right side of the toecap of the right boot. The stain was blackish so right from the start I knew it was a big problem. I immersed the toecap in talcum powder for about 48 hrs and then inspected the stain, it had gone right through the layers of polish to the leather. I now had no option but to use water and saddle soap to strip the layers of polish to get to the depth of the stain. After a few cleanings I managed to remove most of the tell-tale signals that there was ever a stain there. Now I have to try and build the colour back up to the original. What you see in the picture is the cleaned toecap with about 3 coats of Saphir Renovator, more to condition and nourish the leather after all the cleaning than anything else but it has darkened the boot slightly, btw is applying the renovator at this stage a good thing to do or should I apply the colour cream/polish to the bare leather. My question is how do I get back to the same colour as the rest of the boot or is this even possible. The original colour is Tan but I have hit the boots with a medium brown(cream and polish) from time to time. Stripping both boots and starting from scratch is overkill and I hope I do not have to go down that road. Maybe someone with some experience could offer some tips as to how I should proceed. For instance could I just apply several light coats of C&J tan polish or should I use a tan cream to build up the colour. Are there several shades of Tan?

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    Member RIDER is the man for this issue.
     
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    Anybody have any experience with lightening a shoe by leaving it in sunlight? I received a pair of Wolverine Krause seconds in which one shoe is a shade lighter than the other. Would conditioning the darker shoe and leaving it indoors but under direct sunlight lighten it up a shade? Any drawbacks?
     

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