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**The Official Shoe Care Thread: Tutorials, Photos, etc.**

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Mr. Moo, Feb 28, 2011.

  1. patrickBOOTH

    patrickBOOTH Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I usually being one pair of cedar trees when I travel and at least 3 pairs of shoes, two good ones, and one pair of beaters in case of inclement weather.

    I don't recommend plastic shoe trees in any circumstance. The plastic traps the moisture between the lining and the tree itself. Years ago when I was only a poor college student I had a pair of Chelsea boots that only saw plastic shoe trees. Each time I pulled out the trees they would be speckled with drops of sweat. I thought nothing of it until the lining of those shoes rotted and developed cracks on the inside.

    Bring some old newspaper to shove into the shoe, that's better than plastic, ime.
     
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  2. Nick V.

    Nick V. Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    The only time I recommend plastic trees is for use during short travel.
    As mentioned the plastic will repel moisture back into the lining of the shoe causing decay.
    Also mentioned is they are lightweight and will help prevent the shoes from being crushed during travel.
    One solution is to wrap the vamp and heel sections of the trees with 2 layers of paper towel. This way you have an absorbent barrier between the plastic and leather.
     
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  3. DWFII

    DWFII Bespoke Boot and Shoemaker Dubiously Honored

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    Sarcasm alert

    I don't know how this could possibly be true...we've had so much "expert" [cough] testimony here that rubber soles and topy sole protectors are not occlusive...no way, OJ...don't hold moisture in against the insole or the outsole. If rubber outsoles are not occlusive, how could affordable, expedient, modern, technologically advanced, plastic trees be occlusive??!! Plastic trees have holes in them and it's not like they're touching the lining everywhere and/or sealing off the leather they do touch.

    It's SF heresy!!

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    My own personal opinion is that for short periods of time, no trees are better than plastic trees.
     
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  4. Fred G. Unn

    Fred G. Unn Senior member

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    Ok, thanks all!
     
  5. mimo

    mimo Senior member

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    My less educated view would be: use plastic trees to stop your shoes being squashed in your bag. But don't put them into shoes after you've worn them, for at least 24 hours,so that they can be properly dry first.

    In practice, I tend to stuff my shoes with socks to travel, and trust in the power of leather and reality that they won't die if I go without trees for a few days while I'm away.
     
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  6. Nick V.

    Nick V. Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    They don't all have holes in them. You know that:
    https://www.google.com/search?q=ima...ized-printed%2Fvarious-Shoe-trees.htm;453;486
    They press up against the linings. You know that as well.
    I'm not interested in arguing for the sake of argument.
     
  7. DWFII

    DWFII Bespoke Boot and Shoemaker Dubiously Honored

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    I don't use them or sell them...every pair I've ever seen had holes in them.

    What part of " it's not like they're touching the lining everywhere and/or sealing off the leather they do touch," don't you understand?


    Oh?

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  8. alexSF

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    Many lasted shoe tree don't fill the vamp all around, without touching the lining in many areas
    How can do that a small plastic shoe tree, occluding lining pores??
    I regularly use spring plastic shoe tree in some shoes and they are perfecty fine,
    I simply leave the shoes dry a bit before putting them overnight.

    The only negative thing is that they leave a mark on insole at the toe, if anyone care.
     
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  9. Nick V.

    Nick V. Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Your like a rabid dog.
    I don't know why?
     
  10. RogerP

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    I'm using them right now on a week long trip through Vermont and Maine. They work just fine and weigh next to nothing.
     
  11. jssdc

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    I dunno. I travel a lot - most weeks I'm going somewhere. I bring wooden trees with me and don't find it all that difficult. I'm cool with wearing the same shoes 2-3 days in a row if that's most practical (can't hurt every now and then) but I always bring trees and have never even thought if plastic ones.
     
  12. lostintranslation

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    A little bit late, but the shine on these look fantastic. Is there any guide out there that you guys would recommend to get a similar shine on my JLs?
     
  13. patrickBOOTH

    patrickBOOTH Senior member Dubiously Honored

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  14. DWFII

    DWFII Bespoke Boot and Shoemaker Dubiously Honored

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    Who's "biting" who?

    If you think I'm ever going to sit still while you misinterpret and distort my comments, you're out of your mind.

    If you mis-quote me...and you did...I'm gonna call you on it. If you can't understand my remarks--the critical juxtaposition of the word "not" with the word "touching" and "everywhere"--to the point you have absolutely no clue what I said, best strategy is just to find something else to do.

    Someone once said that it's better to remain silent and let people think you're a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

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  15. Nick V.

    Nick V. Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Where did I "miss-quote" you?
     
  16. lostintranslation

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    Thanks. I'll keep on reading. I've already seen a few guides, but the methods described are all a bit different. I suppose there's no silver bullet to achieving the perfect shine!

    One of the guides that I read recommended stripping off the previous wax polish before conditioning and polishing your shoes. If I just polished my shoes a few days ago, is this something that I need to do before I go at it again? Or would you guys recommend only removing the previous polish if a deep cleaning is required?
     
  17. Munky

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    Thank you for all your help, guys. I appreciate it.
     
  18. jaywhyy

    jaywhyy Senior member

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    Somewhat related, my mahogany G&G shoe trees don't absorb sweat very well and have some developed some unsightly sweat stains at the toes.
     
  19. daveathall

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    Thank you very much.

    Here is a YouTube guide, his boots are already bulled but you can start on shoes exactly the same way, make sure they are cleaned and brush polished first. The technique is called "bulling" there are quite a few different ways shown on YouTube. TBH, I just wet my Selvyt cloth (available from Amazon) and then wrung it out and just kept applying polish in circles until I was happy with the shine.

    I would advise that you buy a Selvyt cloth and put it in the washing machine first then the dryer to get all the newness out, forget about the "it must be Kiwi polish" use any good quality polish (I did not find Cherry Blossom to work well).

    http://www.amazon.com/Selvyt-Cloth-...8&qid=1404562374&sr=8-1&keywords=selvyt+cloth

    Hope this helps

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  20. daveathall

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    Sorry I missed this as I was replying to your other post.

    No, don't strip them, just bull over the top, the shoes will need layers of polish anyway.
     

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