Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Mr. Moo, Feb 28, 2011.
And your leather shoes are a by product of the meat trade, so what?
I suppose if you are comfortable with wearing leather shoes, but not with mink oil, then you could use neatsfoot oil. In its classic preparation it also comes from bovines. Apparently it can be made in other ways, I don't know where else the oil may come from.
But without getting too far off into politics, why would one object to raising mink for fur and oil, but be ok with raising cattle for meat and leather? The fur and leather applications would appear to be essentially identical. I don't seen a distinction between eating the muscle (meat) or using the fat (oil). Is the fur trade somehow more abusive to animals?
I've read in a few places that you can use navy shoe polish on black shoes to add depth. Does anyone have any experience with this? Would you use wax or cream?
I use Kiwi's cordovan-colored wax on black for just that reason.
Using saphir cordovan creme/wax on calfskin, okay? Extra nourishing? Same effect?
Less is more imo, especially for cordovan. I just use tiny a bit of wax every so often to remove scuffs. Cordovan itself is a very rich 'leather' that won't dry up quickly; it doesn't need much product. Most of the time a quick wipe with a damp cloth and little brushing suffices.
As with everything though, the experts tend to differ of opinion.
Cordovan creme has neatsfoot oil in it? Says so on my Saphir cordovan creme. I have read that neatsfoot oil will rot the threads in your shoes. If the experts can comment, it would be great.
I have been using Collonil 'Supreme Creme' Polish for sometime now as it doesn't contain turpentine. So far, so good. I ordered Collonil wax polish and their leather conditioner, thinking that they would also not contain turpentine. The both do contain it.
The moral? Never extrapolate from a sample of one.
According to what I remember reading, that is one of the differences between natural neatsfoot oil and synthetic neatsfoot oil. Synthetic neatsfoot oil can cause damage to the threads (or so I've read). I have no personal expertise to guarantee that this is correct, however.
So.... Cordovan creme/wax is okay for use on normal calfskin? Does it do anything extra (extra moisturizing?) or doesn't have the same effect as normal calf creme/wax
Munky you are refering to 1909 leather cream or the 1909 lotion? for the wax i think it is quite posible to have turpentine but i dont think the cream or the lotion has turpentine in them!!btw i ll try to make a contanct and have some details to share!
cordovan cream of saphir has twice pingment cosentration but no extra moisture for sure as far as i know!! for that reason i would recomend you to use a conditioner!!
Hello Benhour! I haven't got them in front of me but one is the 1909 leather conditioner (in the tall green tube) The other is the wax polish. Both smell of turpentine, while the Supreme Creme doesn't. I will use them up, next summer, when I can use them outside! The Supreme Creme is excellent and I think I will use it for all of my shoes. Thanks for your help.
Is it a reasonable thing to use only neutral cream/wax on most of your shoes? Or should coloured products be used every so often? My reasons for asking are three-fold. First, it would simplify the cleaning routine. Second, I have some shoes with white stitching round the edge that I would prefer not to (accidentally) colour. Third, I could use only Collonil's turpentine free polish. I have mostly tan shoes.
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