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**The Official Shoe Care Thread: Tutorials, Photos, etc.**

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Mr. Moo, Feb 28, 2011.

  1. Mr. Pink

    Mr. Pink Senior member

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    Decided I had no choice but to strip it. The shoes are two or three years old and had never been stripped. I think the layer of wax had become too thick and I'd probably used too much water leading to the separation of the wax layer. In any case, stripped off the old wax with turpentine, then refinished. Here is is after, two coats of cream, three of paste applied dry, and three or four more applied with a drop of water.

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  2. SimplyLime

    SimplyLime Well-Known Member

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  3. nickwjd

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    I'm planning to buy some Woodlore Ultra shoe trees from Amazon for a friend and myself. I wear a UK9.5 Loake Capital and he wears a UK9 Loake Capital. Is there anyone here using Woodlore Ultra trees who can give a sizing reference? I'm thinking a Large would suit us both. Thanks!
     
  4. patrickBOOTH

    patrickBOOTH Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Simply Lime, I am not too sure what your issue is with. In your first picture, is that the way they looked when you bought them? Or is that the way they looked after you stripped them with acetone? If the former than you shouldn't have bought them in the first place. If the latter, then shame on you for stripping your shoes with acetone. Either way, id just try to match the color with shoe creams applying sparingly, buffing, applied sparingly again, for a few iterations. If the fading of the leather is still coming through they might need to be re-stripped, dyed, and then the finishing rebuilt slowly like mentioned.

    As for Kiwi, who knows? Some claim there's bad stuff in it, but even the best polishes have bad stuff in them and the ones that clam they don't won't tell you what's actually in it, so it's a crap shoot. If it works for you, use it. As for Meltonian creams they are filled with silicones, which aren't great for long term shoe care.
     
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  5. patrickBOOTH

    patrickBOOTH Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I would think large. Most standard shoe trees I feel are under-sized. I wear a UK9 generally, which in my mind would be medium, but alas I end up exchanging for a large.
     
  6. Munky

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    Can someone sort this out for me, please? In all but one pair of my shoes, I have to wear an arch support, including in my latest, new, pair. Does this say more about my feet than it does about shoes or should I be looking for a different last? And how are you going to know which last is better? The pair that fit without an arch support are cheap ones.

    Does anyone else have to use arch supports in this way?

    I remain, Munky.
     
  7. David Copeland

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    That is a great outcome. Congratulations.


    Sorry to see this happening to you.

    For me, it was less the shoes and boots I have and more relating to my aging feet. Many factors caused my feet to change. I just adapt where adaptation requires an extra support here and there while keeping my shoes and boots, and adjusting what size and last I use for future purchases.

    My last AE purchase of the Fifth Street Boot left me confused after reading all the reviews regarding fit. In the end, AE sent me two pair of the same boot in different sizes to allow me to wear at home and choose which one I could send back with free return shipping. Worked out slow over the next 4 weeks, but I can still wear everything as AE's form to the aging feet nicely.

    Also, when I travel to the city I make an appointment with the shoe manager to have him professionally fit my current size in all of the lasts that seem best. That way I can phone in an order during the year and have him offer free shipping and free returns, including a six-month refund if the wear of the shoes/boots does not work out after wearing them.

    All my best,

    David
     
  8. naviC

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    Struggling a little with these suede shoes.. I've been brushing them regularly but a big turnoff is that the suede is starting to get 'hairy'? I'm not sure how to deal with this and tried steaming the shoe today.

    Really want to get myself a pair of suede chukkas but do all suede shoes get hairy?
     
  9. PCK1

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    You prob brushed them way too often...causing that to happen.

    We witnessed a few weeks ago someone taking a lighter to them to burn the hairs...but if you are gonna go that route...do it carefully.
     
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  10. dlind

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    Better quality suede takes longer but eventually most do. However it's fairly easy to get rid off, just use a lighter and burn ot off. It's a bit scary but if your careful it will burn off easily if you bring the flame close enough, a guy wrote more about it a few pages back! I don't take any responsibility from adverse effects from doing this though, just a tip.
     
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  11. nickwjd

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    Thanks for the input.

    I was worried about the sizing because a lot of remarks online for Woodlore shoe trees are with regards to inaccurate sizing, especially with the Epic twin-tube model. I'll be going with Large then, thanks!
     
  12. jssdc

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    FWIW I use Sir Beecs trees from the Shoe Care Shop. They're pretty much the same thing as Woodlore Epics, but they come in EU sizes instead of S/M/L/XL so there's a better chance of a good fit. Shipping is murder, but if you're buying a couple at one time the ex-VAT price with shipping is something like $35 IIRC.
     
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    Thank you for your comments, David. I think my problem is related to lasts. I have plenty of shoes that fit in terms of length and general comfort but all but one pair have space under the arch area that can only be resolved by the use of arch supports. I guess I am flat footed. What puzzles me, though, is the one pair of shoes that fit perfectly and don't need supports. Again, something to do with the last, perhaps. As there seem to be so may lasts, how to you find ones that suit your feet? Presumably there is an easier way than having to traipse around every shoe shop in London or New York.
     
  14. naviC

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    I will have a read and give it a try if i'm feeling risky..
     
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    Anybody have experience with Chamberlain's leather milk? In their FAQ's they give details on what each product's base is, some are water based, the cleaner is alcohol based. But reading through their stuff it looks like a decent product.
     
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    Munky...sounds to me like you need to go bespoke

    I have been reading Laszlo Vass' Handmade Shoes for Men...fascinating read...definitely good insight to the benefits of bespoke footwear to alleviate issues with peoples feet...i.e., flat footedness.
     
  17. Munky

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    Going bespoke is a nice idea, PCK1 but I don't have nearly enough money to do that!

    I've got Vass book, too and find it an interesting read. I like the photos, too!
     
  18. Craft

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    I have a quick question that I would like a straight answer for, I have read many answers here that sort of answer it but im mainly assuming so sorry that I must ask but I want a straight answer (and patrickbooth I have read your explanation about t over the years you've tried complicated things and such etc etc, but I still have this one question so please bare with me I am new to this ) ok just to clear up some debate I am going to tell you I have already decided to use. I am going to use all Saphir products to start. My understanding is SRenov is a cleaner conditioner. now for a routine polishing (done once the shoe looses luster, and im going for a more matt toned down look , satin if you will) do you still use Renov every singe time or is this maybe a once a month thing ? my understanding is NO I do not need to take off the pre existing cream and polish to re apply cream and polish routinely, and if Renouv is a more once in a while use item should I use regular conditioner when I routinely polish. basically is it. Renouv,cream, wax,/ A conditioner, cream, wax/ or just cream and wax for a routine polishing.

    thank you very much

    -a young man going down the rabbit hole that is quality footwear.
     
  19. Munky

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    Hello Craft. The best answer to your question about how to maintain your shoes is probably that you should read through this thread. The issue has been raised and answered a huge number of times. It's probably not good practice to use Renovator cream every time you clean your shoes. It is a conditioner and not a regular shoe polish. I would use it only occasionally, if at all. The rest of the information you need is to be found in these pages. [​IMG]
     
  20. David Copeland

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    Saphir MDO Renovateur
    Saphir MDO Pommadier Cream Polish
    Saphir MDO Pate de Lux Wax Polish


    I, too, much prefer the matte finish. It reminds me of how my Allen Edmond shoes and boots came straight out of the box as new. And yes, I see Renovateur as you suggest - "a more once in a while" use, depending on how hard you are on your shoes, how often you wear them (or how often you rotate wearing them while using other shoes you own), and what lack luster condition your shoes may or may not become.

    This is a quote I read: "If it has been a while since your shoes have been shined or worn (or if you have any difficulty restoring a soft patina with the prior step), you may want to apply a touch of Saphir Médaille d’Or Renovateur with a corner of the cotton chamois. Allow the product to dry for 30 seconds, and then buff it off. The cotton chamois should easily work a nice matte patina with Saphir Renovateur alone. The Renovatuer will also restore the moisture and nourishment required to prevent any cracking—this is particularly necessary if a pair of shoes have been sitting dormant for a while."

    You will find as your collection increases, you can avoid wearing the same pair until after a nice rotation. Daily maintenance in the morning and the evening can be only 60 seconds, and a weekly inspection may call for little or no maintenance, except for the use of a horse hair brush and a light buffing.

    Here are some excellent links worth the time to explore:

    LINK 1

    LINK 2

    All my best,

    David

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