I've used the Saphir's Neutral shoe cream (#2). It is turpentine based and differs from the Renovateur. It does as good a job as any shoe cream. I went through a period when I used only the neutral cream as a 'polish' (rather than using a particular colour). As I have indicated, to boring effect, above, I have had to give it up because of my being allergic to turpentine. I am beginning to ponder on this: is it more a case of knowing what you are doing when you are cleaning and polishing shoes - rather than about using particular products?