**The Official Shoe Care Thread: Tutorials, Photos, etc.**

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Mr. Moo, Feb 28, 2011.

  1. David Copeland

    David Copeland Senior member

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  2. ChiliPalmer

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    Would someone please provide guidance on what, if anything, I should apply to new dark brown suede shoes before wearing them the first time.

    Specific product recommendations and/or processes would be appreciated.

    Thanks in advance.
     


  3. benhour

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    a water proofer is a must i think! guard shoes from water mud stains and makes it a lot easyer to cleank them!! i use tarrago nano protector but the same products from saphir(AVEL) and collonil are great products too!!
     


  4. Nick V.

    Nick V. Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    This stuff is excellent as well:
    http://www.vectraspray.com/vectra16/vectra16.htm
     


  5. Gerry

    Gerry Senior member

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    I use a Saphir product on my suede Sahara boots from Church, it is called Super INVULNER and I found it to be very effective. It's an excellent water proffer and I once dropped a small piece of soft'ish butter on the front of my boots and it prevented a stain. Anyway I would recommend it but like all similar products it should be applied when shoes are new and every few months thereafter depending on how often you wear the shoes. One caveat, all this types of sprays slightly darken the colour of the shoe, only slightly. It did not bother me but it may bother some folk.
     


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    jbcohen Well-Known Member

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    I have never heard of Saphir brand polish, I tend to use Kiwi. Is there somethign better out there than Kiwi brand shoe polish?
     


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    Yes. Saphir.
     


  8. untouchable123

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    First mirror shine on my Loake oxfords, using kiwi polish, very happy with the result, still a few bumps to fill but a good enough result, now for the heel if I have the time and patience. (excuse the bad pic)[​IMG]
     
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    According to your post i am sure you have never read this thread!!

    first of all never use liquid polish!it ll f up your shoes leather( break the bonds of the molecular stracture of the leather)!!

    kiwi polish is good only if you are in the army or in some kind of armed forces to mirror shine your boots(only because it is easyer with kiwi than other polishes) !! kiwi contains silicon, this waterproofs in a level but it ll dry out the leather and eventually it ll crack!


    untouchable123 the picture shoes a good shine(maybe spit shine) but i cant see a mirror shine(probably cause of the light in the picture)! Now for the kiwi product see above !! ;)
     
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    its the light, I've got rid of the orange peel texture of the leather, theres a few slight patches to work on but mostly very smooth, as for using Kiwi I don't use parade gloss which I think your referring too just the standard polish which won't be much different to saphir's version (at least for the purpose of a shoe shine)
     


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    as far as i know all kiwi polishes are silicon based!
     


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    Having silicon content is very different than silicon based. Specifically, parade gloss contains silicon but do you know about every other blend they have?
     


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    untouchable123.....I hope you won't get upset by me using your post here as an example in matching the correct product with a particular shoe, but this could be useful for many here. Here is a case where a 'good' or 'better' product is actually detrimental to the shoe being worked on. Unfortunately, there is a lot of this on the market now, with little explanation by the shoe shops in what the customer is buying. The leather here is split calf, painted black with a plastic coating applied as the top coat - no grain exists. You can already see the plastic top coat lifting off at the crease points. The use of any classic wax in this case is actually going to speed up the deterioration of the finish. Interestingly, the product the next guy was pitching (I particularly like the advise to make sure you shine the entire shoe...very helpful and noted here!) or a product like the Tarrago self-shine cream, would be the more correct product to use. Both are fairly benign creams, with a little resin in the mix (the self-shine), but are far less caustic than any traditional paste and the job is done - virtually to the same degree pictured - in around 1 minute. For some leathers, you really don't need to break a sweat to keep them in good condition, and, unfortunately, many of the 'known' products can actually cause you to get less time in them then by doing nothing.
     


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    This topic has come up it this thread before. Back then I asked Johnson & Johnson (the makers of Kiwi polish) this question and their response was that only the Parade polish contained silicone.

    Johnson & Johnson is very good about answering user's questions about their products. In the contact link (in English) is (https://www.econsumeraffairs.com/scj/ContactUs.htm). They typically respond to questions within a day or two.
     


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    Glen and Cho thats why i said "as far as i know" and didnt said i am sure of it!! kiwi products are not sold in my country(Greece) and believe me i really tried to find them! i can only judge from an old( early 90s' late 80s' i dont know ,i just found it in my grandfathers stuff) kiwi wax polish i have seen!!it was standar polish(not parade gloss) and it had silicone in it for sure( i remember that but i dont have the tin to take a pic from the back)! i guess they have changed that in their product from back then!! in a little search i made in the internet only parade gloss and instant shine spong or wipes has silicone(said on the tin or on the packaging)!

    their wax polish they say it is 100% natural so i suppose it is!! i am sorry for the missinformation on that!!

    but as it is obvious http://www.kiwishoeshine.com/KIWI-Select-Mink-Oil-11-oz_p_478.html
    parade gloss is not their only shoe care product that contains silicone


    so for me the only thing i can say for sure is that we have to be carefull with all products and read the back sticker!! hahaha
     
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