**The Official Shoe Care Thread: Tutorials, Photos, etc.**

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Mr. Moo, Feb 28, 2011.

  1. archangle13

    archangle13 Senior member

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    Is it safe to use Saphir reno, Saphir cream and then Kiwi wax together for shoes?
     
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    cbfn Senior member

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    No, this will result in spontaneous combustion.
     
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    all things in moderation . the wax only if a high shine is desired
     
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    If? What is this if of which you speak?
     
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    I don't mind flaming-hot shoes. [​IMG]

    Let me clarify. Is it advisable to use Saphir and Kiwi products in combination? That would mean Saphir reno, Saphir cream, and then Kiwi wax.

    I only have the Saphir reno and cream now, and I would love to go for a shine without having to import more Saphir considering where I am. The only wax available in my desert is Kiwi.
     
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    archangle13 - I am no expert, but I have combined products from different brands many times without any negative effects whatsoever. It may be that staying withing the same brand family will optimize results, but I'd be surprised if there were any chance of harm whatsoever from laying a coat of Kiwi wax polish on top of Saphir cream.
     
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    No Ill effects whatsoever
     
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    It's common knowledge that mixing of Saphir products and Kiwi products makes a deadly poison.
     
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    OzzyJones Senior member

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    interesting video. i think he is using way too many products for shell cordovan, no?:


    for leather, this seems like it would be a good treatment though.

    i'm curious about the dye, can this be done to shell cordovan effectively? anything I would need to be aware of in attempting it?
     
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    Burnishing is how leather workers 'finish' the edges of belt, bags, soles, etc, and is done by heat + wax to burn the wax into leather fiber.

    Burnishing in the shoe making sense is to use heat via high speed buffing and wax polish to darken the color of the leather. See this AA Crack site for the effect of burnishing. Don't know any youtube link that shows burnishing.
    http://www.aacrack.co.uk/default.asp?contentID=617

    Need DWFII, Posh or Bengle S to shine some lights on the issue.
     
  12. Northampton Novice

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    Correct. I believe you are talking about yankee wax (not the candles!) it is invariably used with either a hot iron or buffer disc. I have used it it cold, without a disc and then applied heat with great results
    If you need any further help/assistance/product let me know but allow a few days for a response as I'm in the midst of my Cordwainer finals!
     
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    i have used various lubricants for burnishing ( im speaking in regards to leather edges on belts , wallets , shoe soles etc i know nothing of toe caps and uppers)water,saddle soap wax even spit they all work .my research however shows that serious leather workers seem to prefer a mixture of 50/50 bees wax and parrafin machine buffer applied . you
    should understand that burnishing is an art there is no correct way to do it only the method that produces.the desired result . only the basics are constant, friction produced heat
    , lubricant and leather . take a raw leather edge dampen it then rub it as hard and fast as you can with a piece of scrap denim youll see what its all about . extrapolate from there
     
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    you know ozzy this sounds weird but i love to spit shine shoes and look at the results but i dont like the way they look when i wear them. I guess im too informal but then i live in a nor cal beach town people got dress flip flops around here. they think my shell boots boots are some kind of martian lizard hide
     
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    Hahaaaa! Wear flip flops and put a shine on your toes! That'll learn em! I love to bull my shoes but then walk funny as I'm scared to scuff the finish. Its very sad
     

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