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**The Official Shoe Care Thread: Tutorials, Photos, etc.**

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Mr. Moo, Feb 28, 2011.

  1. Numbernine

    Numbernine Senior member

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    They are refering to suede ,roughout etc they are fine for textured smooth leather like scotch grain
     
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    This is my understanding. "Smooth leather" is basically smooth calf skin (including grain calf, which is still "smooth leather").
     
  3. David Copeland

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    Thanks for Kirby, for your post.

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    To others here who use the MICROFIBER CLOTH on their Allen Edmond Shoes . . . I have a question:

    The laundry tag on the cloth says, "Wash before using". Is that necessary?

    If so, then what is the difference? And did you just throw all of the cloths into the washer at once and launder them as regular clothes?


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    I got 36 of these MicroFiber Cloths for only $21.49 including FREE 2-DAY FEDEX SHIPPING.

    Although I did not pre-wash the first one I grabbed, it did a fantastic job right away.

    (Its says "Rinse and reuse 100's of times", so this supply should last be a very long time)

    David

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  4. chogall

    chogall Senior member

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    polishing shoes isn't the same as washing your cars...
     
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    Thanks. That makes perfect sense.
     
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    So is the majority opinion that Reno is safe for shell?

    And if not, what are the negative effects?
     
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    Hill tbh I think renovateur is getting put on trial around here and the jury is still out.Imo thats a good thing but it dosent answer your question does it . I can only say that I use reno almost exclusivly on my shell shoes .It certainly does a beautiful job and if there is any drawback it has to be something long term that I havent heard about. It is not a cordovan product persay and saphir does make a cordovan cream that I have used ,seems like good stuff. If I were looking to buy something for my shell I would probably go with that. I use so little products on my shoes it is difficult to form much of an opinion about them . I dont baby my shells I beat them pretty good but after wearing they get wiped down and buffed back to a luster I will use reno or saphir cordo cream @ twice a year thats it . While I am writing this opus I would like to mention a practice I have that is to me the single best way to get rid of water welts and scuffs and that is to mist the shoes lightly ,working a section at a time, with water (I use distilled but only because I have it for my steamer) then buff the dickens out of them . This works better than any other single thing i have found to keep my shoes lustrous and blemish free .
    Sorry for the jabber fest gotta go . good luck
     
  8. Hill

    Hill Senior member

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    Thank you, what a great reply. That post will serve me well and I appreciate it.
     
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    does anyone know if Saphire paste and wax etc has a use before date? Or I guess what I mean how long do they last, as in when does it go bad?
     
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    I have one question for those of you that can do a mirror shine.
    If I have a brown shoe, could I use neutral color wax(Saphir) to achieve a mirror shine or do I have to get a colored wax? I'm asking this because I would like to try to shine a C&J Chestnut shoe and I don't know if any of the saphir waxes would be a good match for it, since chestnut is kind of reddish.
     
  11. dlind

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    there is the mahogany and the cognac, both of which are reddish brow. But you can do it with neutral as well.
     
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    ^I have both colours, cognac wax is available only in MDO range and in 100ml.

    Cognac is a dark tan with a red tone, mahogany is a brown with a red tone.

    For C&J chestnut I would go with mahogany.
     
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    Thanks for the recommendations guys. I have one last question. If I use mahogany, should I get both, the cream and the wax in mahogany? or should I get anything in neutral?
     
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    Use cream for restoring or recolouring scuffs.

    For the regular care, a good conditioner and wax polish are fine.

    Avoid neutral wax, it should be used only as soft stripper or for waxing the welt.
    It's easy to remove the factory finishing.
     
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    Wax will dry out with age, but some people prefer using dried wax for spit shine. Not sure about cream. Still using my Saphir wax and creams purchased around 2006 though waxes are a bit dried out. My Robsons wax from around 2002 is still oily/waxy as new due to its super high wax content; it's made by a beeswax farm.
     
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    As long as we are on the subject I would like to discuss something I discovered the hard way . one should be very careful in the use of new previously unopened products as the solvents ,and they all contain solvents , have a tendency to concentrate themselves in storage after the containers are filled and sealed at the factory This concentrated solvent can and will remove factoy finishes of the type used on alden and probably most other shell cordovan shoes . I found this out after having done so to the toe of an essentially brand new $700 + indy boot . Not the end of of the world but it does necessitate stripping all the finish from both boots in order to maintain an even look . Hopefully this post saves someone else having to find this out the way I did I posted @it here a while back.
    http://www.askandyaboutclothes.com/...an-Care-Saphir-Products&p=1361575#post1361575
     
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    Ok, so really they should keep at least 5-8 years?

    Yea I heard partially dried wax is good for a spit shine, guess it would take some more work to "heat" up and spread evenly though...
     
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    I think they could be stored longer but I am not old enough to comment.

    It doesn't take all that much effort to pick up dried wax and use them to shine. It's actually easier to shine IMO than fresh wax.
     
  20. David Copeland

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    Kirby Allison, "Saphir Renovateur is . . . safe for use on all skins and leathers, even exotics, including crocodile, alligator and cordovan"

    Link: http://www.hangerproject.com/shoe-care-guide/going-for-the-gold.html


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    Polishing Shell Cordovan:
    http://www.hangerproject.com/polishing-shell-cordovan/

    Other Saphir Cordovan Shoe Care links:

    http://www.hangerproject.com/saphir-cordovan-shoe-polish.html#.UZAIg7Xvsnw
     

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