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Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Mr. Moo, Feb 28, 2011.
Bingo! Not as beeswax heavy so the water cannot get trapped.
Great, thanks for the advice to use leather oil instead of LP! I'll try that.
Thanks, I'll give it a try.
I'd be more worried about 'butt prints'.
I, at least, usually wear trousers when I sit on my couch...
Aren't you precious?!?!?!?
Anyone care to diagnose some darkening on a pair of C&J for Ralph Lauren boots?
I bought these on eBay and when they arrived last week, color seemed pretty even in most places (you can actually see the "before" pics here).
First day wearing them, I was at the supermarket and someone knocked over a 64-oz bottle of cranberry juice, splattering some on the boots.
I wiped them with some paper towel and when I got home, dabbed them with some water in the spots where the juice had landed. The vamp on the left became saturated quickly, and when it dried I was left with the darkening visible in pic 1. There was a bit of this before, but it's much more prominent now.
So I waited a few days, then decided to try cleaning and conditioning. I wiped the shoes with Lexol PH and then went over them with a damp cloth. Then applied Renovateur.
And it was then that the slightly scuffed area on the toes got darker (pic 2). This wasn't an area that got hit hard with the cranberry juice and it didn't display any color change when I dabbed it following the incident. This area looked a bit scuffed prior to all this (see "before" pics), but it's worse now.
So I put on a few very thin coats of cream polish, and there's hardly any change.
Any idea what's going on here? Did I damage the leather on the vamp trying to clean it after the spill? What about the toes? Since that discoloration got worse after cleaning and conditioning, will it maybe just fade with time and brushing? Anything else I should try?
Thanks for any guidance.
Just getting into nice shoes, and wanted to start off right by getting the right products.
Will be used on calfskin
Saphir Renovateur or Venetian shoe cream?
Saphir for calf would be my recommendation. But I'd also recommend Lexol (don't worry, it's really cheap by comparison). Lexol penetrates the leather much better for deeper conditioning IMO while Saphir does some of this and also gives a gorgeous warm glow when brushed out.
Venetian is great for shell cordovan and also good for calf.
I haven't posted a "here's what I did on today's conference call" post in a while. I decided to have a go at a brand new pair of color 8 Alden shell cap toe boots. If there is a model that's crying for a mirror toe, it is the cap toe. Because they are color 8 and have very little contrast, it's hard to capture the shine in an image.
Boots are only a week old and looked great with just a good brushing. I applied a coat of Renovateur to the entire upper, brushed, then applied a few extremely thin coats of Saphir Cordovan wax, followed by more brushing. I finished by buffing. The pictures are a bit deceiving but there is no wax at all past the cap. I stopped applying wax just shy of the brogued section.
Before pic isn't exactly out of the box. I brushed them for a good 15-20 minutes the night I bought them. They were fairly drab out of the box but really came to life after a little Mac method.
And after the renovateur and wax.
Always enjoy your posts! Receiving my first shells in a couple of days, goona have to post a before and after picture here as well then!
Amazing shine on the shell, Patrick! Hard to believe there's no wax past the caps.
C'mon - inquiring minds want to know. What did you get?
In general I do not support the idea of Renovateur as an 'all purpose' shoe care product for frequent use. Nor for initial conditioning.
I'm coming to prefer Saphir Lotion for general conditioning and now prefer Reno only for shoes that have wax/polish already applied on them.
This change of heart began with an unfortunate Reno experience: One application to a previously untreated pair of Alden Whisky Cordovan shoes substantially and I suspect permanently darkened the vamp on only one of the two shoes. This was not your normal darkening caused by moisture absorbing into the leather. As this sort of darkening eventually goes away and it has been a couple of months since the event. Rather - the darkening looked more like a chemical reaction of some sort in that the resulting effect was like black soot (fine black dots).
So I ordered a bottle of Saphir lotion and began by using it on all of calf skin shoes - it seemed to be working well as moisturizing and in fact seems to improve the flexibility of the polish/wax finish (less white creasing) better than the Reno had been doing.
Today I finally got up the courage to treat the Alden shells with the Saphir Lotion in an attempt to even them out some. While the darkened area created by the Reno hasn't completely gone away I can say that the black sooty look has lifted and the shoes look much better overall.
In the long run - concerning shell from Alden - Clearly I should have stuck to the Mac Method and avoided conditioning them at all.
A pair of lightly used RL wingtip marlows at a great price. I've been looking for them for over a year! I was thinking about using some reno, but I'm not sure after reading G's experience. I was looking for venetian, but I was quoted $38 for shipping.
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