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Time to put some winter boots away and take summer shoes out. Quick wipe to make sure the boots are clean, then light conditioning with the right stuff and then just in the box to wait for the next season. I've learnt that less is more when using products.

 

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Gentlemen, I have a problem.

I have antiqued several of my own shoes with different coloured polishes in the past, the result of which was never any substantial smudging from the polish on my trousers, or if there was, it was marginal.

On Christmas, I bought my mother a pair of Carmina Oscarias. I antiqued them oxblood, the result of which has been SERIOUS bleeding of the polish.

I cleaned them with saddle soap + neutral polish to remove even more polish, then used neutral to "seal" it in. I thought I had resolved the problem, as over three separate days I ran my hand over the boots roughly, the result of which was no colour bleed at all. None.

Now she calls me up and says the polish is all over her legs and pants.

What am I doing wrong?

I've done four of my own shoes with NONE of this problem. I have occasionally sm udged polish after a polish on cordovan leather especially, but nothing like this, where I brushed and saddle soaped and neutral polished the hell out of these shoes to get anay residue off.

Any assistance?
 

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Something similar happend with a Carmina burgundy bluchers that I tried to darken, they where too red for me so I used brown Kiwi to darken them. I use Kiwi for these jobs because is highly pigmented and helps for darkening but avoid it as a "regual use".

After a couple of wears the leather looked horrible with cracks and spots. I was terrified but I cleaned them gently with Collonil (I think is a product similar to Saphir Renovateur, the one that you must not use in museum calf because it will remove the marbled effect). The cream removed the excess and kept the shoes dark enough for my taste.

Maybe the pores in the leather are too tight and sealed with something, therefore will be difficult to stain them.

I suggest asking opinions to the guys in the "Vintage Shoe Thread", they are very helpfull and have tons of experience due to their hobby of reviving and disecting old shoes.

Good luck

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Something similar happend with a Carmina burgundy bluchers that I tried to darken, they where too red for me so I used brown Kiwi to darken them. I use Kiwi for these jobs because is highly pigmented and helps for darkening but avoid it as a "regual use".

After a couple of wears the leather looked horrible with cracks and spots. I was terrified but I cleaned them gently with Collonil (I think is a product similar to Saphir Renovateur, the one that you must not use in museum calf because it will remove the marbled effect). The cream removed the excess and kept the shoes dark enough for my taste.

Maybe the pores in the leather are too tight and sealed with something, therefore will be difficult to stain them.

I suggest asking opinions to the guys in the "Vintage Shoe Thread", they are very helpfull and have tons of experience due to their hobby of reviving and disecting old shoes.

Good luck

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Thanks, I will!
 

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Something similar happend with a Carmina burgundy bluchers that I tried to darken, they where too red for me so I used brown Kiwi to darken them. I use Kiwi for these jobs because is highly pigmented and helps for darkening but avoid it as a "regual use".

After a couple of wears the leather looked horrible with cracks and spots. I was terrified but I cleaned them gently with Collonil (I think is a product similar to Saphir Renovateur, the one that you must not use in museum calf because it will remove the marbled effect). The cream removed the excess and kept the shoes dark enough for my taste.

Maybe the pores in the leather are too tight and sealed with something, therefore will be difficult to stain them.

I suggest asking opinions to the guys in the "Vintage Shoe Thread", they are very helpfull and have tons of experience due to their hobby of reviving and disecting old shoes.

Good luck

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Wow, that was a complete change of colour, not just "darkening". Undoubtedly now can be more easily used, the red one was a difficult one.

The original colour of your Carmina's was somehow similar to the one of my Heschung Genet chukka boots, that I modified using "cordovan" colour cream, with the results you have seen.
 

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Wow, that was a complete change of colour, not just "darkening". Undoubtedly now can be more easily used, the red one was a difficult one.

The original colour of your Carmina's was somehow similar to the one of my Heschung Genet chukka boots, that I modified using "cordovan" colour cream, with the results you have seen.
Hola Mercurio

I will try them tomorrow and share some pics. The red one's picture was taken early in the morning with direct sunlight, that is why they look as Dorothy's shoes. Six am is the only time of the day when I can place my shoes over that stone table without being killed by my lovely wife.

Once I was caught in a photograph session for some new shoes and she said "why did you put your shoes over the table where we eat?" I almost replied "these pictures are for my SF pals" but that answerd would have endangered my life.
 

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Hola Mercurio

I will try them tomorrow and share some pics. The red one's picture was taken early in the morning with direct sunlight, that is why they look as Dorothy's shoes. Six am is the only time of the day when I can place my shoes over that stone table without being killed by my lovely wife.

Once I was caught in a photograph session for some new shoes and she said "why did you put your shoes over the table where we eat?" I almost replied "these pictures are for my SF pals" but that answerd would have endangered my life.
LOLOLOL.

Somehow, I feel like the dirtiness of my leather soles is less than rubber soles, so I'd have answered: Don't worry. It's leather soled!
 

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I’ve scuffed my boot and I’m not sure which saphir cream polish pigment to choose? It’s right at the border of the burnishing....I was thinking mahogany or dark brown

the speck at the middle of the toe is grass, I didn’t notice the speck until now.

The chukka boots are these, https://www.skoaktiebolaget.com/collections/lof-tung/products/lof-tung-cole-mahogany-country-calf

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Try dark brown with a little bit of burgundy.
 

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I’ve scuffed my boot and I’m not sure which saphir cream polish pigment to choose? It’s right at the border of the burnishing....I was thinking mahogany or dark brown

the speck at the middle of the toe is grass, I didn’t notice the speck until now.

The chukka boots are these, https://www.skoaktiebolaget.com/collections/lof-tung/products/lof-tung-cole-mahogany-country-calf

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Your best bet is to order a Saphir color chart and go on from there.
 

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Over the years on here, I have always advocated simplicity in shoe care. You don't need to do much or use much.

I was reminded of this, recently, when a) re-reading Horween's website and b) getting a message back from Natalie Horween. Their advice for caring for Chromexel and Natural Veg tanned shoes/boots? Wipe down with a damp cloth and only very occasionally use something like Venetian Cream or Renovateur on them - if you need to.

"Chromexcel footwear won't need much more than cleaning with a damp cloth and brushing for the first year, maybe more". (Nick Horween, from the company site).

Natalie Horween told me much the same about Natural Veg tanned leather shoes.

They make the leather and it makes you think.
 

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I’ve scuffed my boot and I’m not sure which saphir cream polish pigment to choose? It’s right at the border of the burnishing....I was thinking mahogany or dark brown

the speck at the middle of the toe is grass, I didn’t notice the speck until now.

The chukka boots are these, https://www.skoaktiebolaget.com/collections/lof-tung/products/lof-tung-cole-mahogany-country-calf

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General recomendación isvto gonforbrhe clearer color
 

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