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Does anyone use saphir neutral polish ?
Ive ordered it to bump up an order to get free delivery but i dont know what id use it on.
It's good on anything you'd want to polish.
 

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I use it on the sole edges of some shoes and the soles. For some reason it gives the best shine out of my shoe creams.
Neutral seems to have a bit more pop in the polish than pigmented does.
 

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Does anyone use saphir neutral polish ?
Ive ordered it to bump up an order to get free delivery but i dont know what id use it on.
Saphir Neutral polish is probably the best and most versatile cream out there. You can use it on almost all leathers, excluding - of course - things like suede.
 

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I wrote a bit about this a couple weeks back, but wanted a bit more clarity

Can the Saphir Beaute De Cuir Cream cause some of that white line cracking if applied on flexible areas because of the beeswax?

I applied some Reno on an area and some BDC cream and there was some cracking. I assume it was the BDC cream but Reno has a little wax as well
 

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I wrote a bit about this a couple weeks back, but wanted a bit more clarity

Can the Saphir Beaute De Cuir Cream cause some of that white line cracking if applied on flexible areas because of the beeswax?

I applied some Reno on an area and some BDC cream and there was some cracking. I assume it was the BDC cream but Reno has a little wax as well
Shoe cream should not cause visible cracking as it is not hard wax. If you get it, just buff it off.
 

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Shoe cream should not cause visible cracking as it is not hard wax. If you get it, just buff it off.
It is like a white line crease though that stays and the crease becomes white.

I may just blow dry it and use some bick4

May just get rid of the BDC and use MDO only if I need a pigment (assuming it doesn't have any cracking issues since no beeswax)
 

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It is like a white line crease though that stays and the crease becomes white.

I may just blow dry it and use some bick4

May just get rid of the BDC and use MDO only if I need a pigment (assuming it doesn't have any cracking issues since no beeswax)
I've never once had any problem with cracking using Bdc. Are you using a lot of this? Or not buffing it off? That's the only reason I could think this would be causing it.

There's no need to blow dry anything. Just buff it away. Add a tiny bit of spit or water if need be.

Also, the mdo pommadier polish also has beeswax in it. The main difference is almond oil v. Shea butter.
 

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I have one pair that does something like that (maybe the cream doesn't penetrate too well in that particular leather?). I just rub off the residue with my finger after walking a bit.
 

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I have one pair that does something like that (maybe the cream doesn't penetrate too well in that particular leather?). I just rub off the residue with my finger after walking a bit.
If the cream doesn't penetrate that well, you're right that is a sign of a suspect leather. That being said, I find pommadier liable to be too greasy on even full grain calf sometimes, so I usually stick to Bdc as its so much easier to buff off and still nourish and pigment the leather
 

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If the cream doesn't penetrate that well, you're right that is a sign of a suspect leather. That being said, I find pommadier liable to be too greasy on even full grain calf sometimes, so I usually stick to Bdc as its so much easier to buff off and still nourish and pigment the leather
One pair may be suspect leather
One pair is a new AE 5th ave, so I wouldn't expect that to happen on those

I just remembered I may have used actual neutral polish and not reno on the AE's though.

Could it be neutral colors that do this? Would be weird if so

I am not using too much honestly, less than what I see in videos and I am buffing with a horsehair brush
 

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One pair may be suspect leather
One pair is a new AE 5th ave, so I wouldn't expect that to happen on those

I just remembered I may have used actual neutral polish and not reno on the AE's though.

Could it be neutral colors that do this? Would be weird if so

I am not using too much honestly, less than what I see in videos and I am buffing with a horsehair brush
Take a pic of the shoes if you would? Allen Edmonds makes good quality shoes, so the leather should be fine.
 

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Take a pic of the shoes if you would? Allen Edmonds makes good quality shoes, so the leather should be fine.
The AE pair wasn't a factory 2nd either, but leather looked a bit dry, so I put on some neutral Saphir Shoe Cream and there are some whiteish lines in the crease

I dampened a bit with a lightly wet rag last time so not as bad as it was before, but any fixes or has this happened to others?

I may just blow dry it and add some bick4 conditioner.

Saphir Customer Support said Neutral creams have caused this problem before when I emailed them

I even have the AE dark chili polish, a bit worried to use it on the vamp
 

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The AE pair wasn't a factory 2nd either, but leather looked a bit dry, so I put on some neutral Saphir Shoe Cream and there are some whiteish lines in the crease

I dampened a bit with a lightly wet rag last time so not as bad as it was before, but any fixes or has this happened to others?

I may just blow dry it and add some bick4 conditioner.

Saphir Customer Support said Neutral creams have caused this problem before when I emailed them

I even have the AE dark chili polish, a bit worried to use it on the vamp
Maybe it's the picture, maybe it's my eyes, but I see absolutely no problem here.

Also, the vamp can be lightly waxed with no negative effect.
 

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When I brush a creased area (as usually is the vamp) I put my hand inside the shoes and with my knuckles I try and distend the leather from inside.
I would not try much different stuff on my shoes; 99% of the cases they just need brush, brush and, in doubt, brush more.
The copyright of his smart advice is not mine anyway. There's a member, whose name I'll not mention, who has been repeating that for years - unheard. His avatar is S. Freud ...
 

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