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I messed up a new pair of EG's with Saphir Reno. There were some dark polish in between the grain out of the box, and I rubbed a bit too hard with Saphir as it got worse. I was able to clean the other areas but left this ugly spot. Is there a way to fix this at home? Not sure what caused this, and the dark area is the bare leather before the dye on top?

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There was a problem like this several pages back. I think on the exact same pair of shoes. Was it you posting it?

Cream polish didn't work for the other person, so I think you might just need to take them back if you're mad. Don't tell them you messed with it and say you got 'em like this.
 

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There was a problem like this several pages back. I think on the exact same pair of shoes. Was it you posting it?

Cream polish didn't work for the other person, so I think you might just need to take them back if you're mad. Don't tell them you messed with it and say you got 'em like this.
Not sure if it was me, but I remember posting this in the EG thread but didn't get a definite answer. Got this new for around $300 at BB, definitely not returning it. If it can't be remedied, it's OK. Just wanted to see here if I can get some ideas. I can definitely live with it for the what I paid for it :)
 

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Not sure if it was me, but I remember posting this in the EG thread but didn't get a definite answer. Got this new for around $300 at BB, definitely not returning it. If it can't be remedied, it's OK. Just wanted to see here if I can get some ideas. I can definitely live with it for the what I paid for it :)
Use cream polish. Worst case: use dye.
 

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@ducatiti

Please do not consider dyeing your shoes. The have a beautiful finish and I would think the pebble grain vamp wouldn't take dye consistently. As stains go, that is not a dramatic one and I would live with it and allowing time and polishing to take care of it. I do share your annoyance at this. I have recently been there. Best wishes, Munky
 

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Not sure why you guys like to use Renomat on new shoes. It can only go worse. That's for removing build up of wax and polish and heavy stains but it will remove the original finish depending on the leather and if rub too hard.
 

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Not sure why you guys like to use Renomat on new shoes. It can only go worse. That's for removing build up of wax and polish and heavy stains but it will remove the original finish depending on the leather and if rub too hard.
Agreed. Reno is only for deep wax cleaning. Do not use on new shoes. It will ruin it.
 

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Not sure why you guys like to use Renomat on new shoes. It can only go worse. That's for removing build up of wax and polish and heavy stains but it will remove the original finish depending on the leather and if rub too hard.
I suspect (but do not know) that Ducatiti was referring to Renovateur rather than Renomat. I wouldn't think it necessary to use either. With best wishes, Munky
 

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I suspect (but do not know) that Ducatiti was referring to Renovateur rather than Renomat. I wouldn't think it necessary to use either. With best wishes, Munky
Renovateur is more a conditioner than a stripper. I wouldn't be as worried.

By the way, thanks for the advice on the vegetable tanned leather. The boots I picked up are quite nice and looking better with each wear.

I don't think I'll do dainite again, though. Dainite doesn't get the nice real estate for a shiny heel and edge.
 

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A rudimentary question. If the facings on various pairs of shoes meet when the laces are tied, is this a sign that the shoes are too wide?
 

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A rudimentary question. If the facings on various pairs of shoes meet when the laces are tied, is this a sign that the shoes are too wide?
Isn't this a desirable trait? Many gentlemen like that their oxfords show none of the tongue when the laces are tied.

So no, not too wide.

I have never seen this on a derby, though.
 

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Isn't this a desirable trait? Many gentlemen like that their oxfords show none of the tongue when the laces are tied.

So no, not too wide.

I have never seen this on a derby, though.
I think it is desirable in oxfords to have a small gap.

Not so sure about a derby, I personally prefer a bit of a gap.
 

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A rudimentary question. If the facings on various pairs of shoes meet when the laces are tied, is this a sign that the shoes are too wide?
The fundamental question is: how do they fit? From my understanding, a small gap, of around 5 mm, is desirable initially as that indicates proper tightness around the instep. A completely closed instep, conversely, may indicate some looseness in that area. But if your shoes fit fine, though, then a gap or no gap shouldn’t matter.
 

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A bit of polishing from last night. I love how the patena develops over the years, push the burnishing by using black and dark brown cream and wax.
 

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Isn't this a desirable trait? Many gentlemen like that their oxfords show none of the tongue when the laces are tied.

So no, not too wide.

I have never seen this on a derby, though.
I'm not too worried about what gentlemen like. I am pretty certain that the facings of shoes should not be touching. Apart from anything else, it leaves no further room for adjustment of the laces if the leather stretches a bit. I seem to remember comments about this, on here, about 5 years ago but can't find them.
 

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I'm not too worried about what gentlemen like. I am pretty certain that the facings of shoes should not be touching. Apart from anything else, it leaves no further room for adjustment of the laces if the leather stretches a bit. I seem to remember comments about this, on here, about 5 years ago but can't find them.
This. The facings touching is like the last hole on a belt, nowhere to go. What if you are wearing different socks etc.
 

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