Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by whodini, May 21, 2009.
Cone denim is nice, but feels a bit basic to me. Comparing it to something like say, Sugar Cane Okinawa, there's just no comparison. Japanese denim always felt better, and I'm sad they're departing from it.
I'm not usually into pre-distressed denim, but thinking of getting the Low Straight Tinted Denim currently part of the sale.
Why don't they release that left hand twill in raw or rinse....
I was waiting for RRL to switch to Cone. It's the obvious choice and good for the economy. I always assumed they were using Cone for some of their one-off washes they did in the past that didn't say Japan denim on the inside pocket and for the non-selvedge zip fly models and some women's models from the past and present collections.
It's getting hard to compete and offer raw Japanese selvedge denim for $250. I don't know how they're going to justify charging $450 for premium washes made from Cone denim nor do I think that Cone denim will have the same depth and color variations from the lab washes.
On the other hand Raleigh has no problem moving tons of their Cone raw jeans at $300+ so maybe there is a bigger market for White Oak then we think, especially in Japan. Time will tell whether or not the switch will be a success, if at all, or maybe they're just doing a few SS '13 jeans this way and not messing with the core denim.
Also I read somewhere that the RRL denim labs are somewhere Midwest, not LA.
I really doubt RRL is just going to suspend the Japanese denim, which I would say are a staple icon of the brand.
As of very recently, all of their denim is made at denim tech in LA. I don't know if that changed with the Cone denim sourcing but I don't see why it would.
I've seen nothing to suggest this---it looks like they're using cone for a couple of items so far, and everything else is still Japanese.
I guess its true that good things come to those who wait, got that Fair Isle Cardigan for $165.
I'm lucky to have a bit of inside info on the switch to Cone denim.
RRL have been working with Cone for a number of seasons to develop an exclusive fabric. My understanding is that its heavier than any other stock denim they produce for all the other brands. RRL always have exclusive fabric even from their Japanese suppliers. They've also been holding off on this for a number of seasons as they felt the development wasn't good enough. It will only be used on seasonal washes with the core carrying on as the Japanese fabrics. I for one am looking forward to seeing it.
Just out of curiousity, what makes the Japanese denim "better" than Cone? Is it a quality, durability, fade properties, etc.?
Note, my only selvedge experience has been with Cone (Levi selvedge 501 and Tellason) so I don't have a frame of reference.
Did anyone buy the fair isle sweater? Or fleece? ... Was thinking about getting it but wasn't sure if it actually felt like a legit sweater or felt like a fleece/sweatshirt you'd throw on with sweatpants.
Anyone have the fair isle sweater?
If by you mean this one...then IMO definitely more a true sweatshirt over a sweater. I have been wearing it in the evenings with my RRL slouch pants.
That actually sounds very intriguing. Kind of interested in seeing this Cone fabric - sounds like it might be pretty solid. Of of interest, where do you get your info?
Wow, that's how you roll at home? You're not fucking around.
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