The Official RRL Thread

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by whodini, May 21, 2009.

  1. RRL CLOTHING

    RRL CLOTHING Senior member

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    A seller will strive to have have 500-1000+ items before they start rotating their inventory and selling about 5-10% of it per month equates to about $5000-$6000 or more in profit per month depending on their markups.

    Resellers buy RRL for 80-90% off MSRP. Every item you sell can pay for 5-10 new items and the inventory grows until you are comfortable selling enough to keep yourself busy while having a reserve that will keep you occupied for years in case RRL stops discounting. Lowering prices will boost sales but also WILL exceed your resources for shipping in a timely manner, finding time to make new listings, manpower required to scour the country for new stock and other factors like opening multiple accounts and staying under a certain number of sales to avoid proposed IRS reporting requirements.

    International customers are happy to pay MSRP because where they live this stuff goes for 2-3x MSRP. Selling for 20-30% off MSRP is still a bargain for anywhere outside the USA and recently ebay released data showing some obscene amount of traffic comes from overseas. Regardless if a seller is doubling or quadrupling their $$$ or if some other shady guy is selling stuff and thrilled to make just enough money to buy his booze and cigs. Sellers don't care about what other people are doing, in fact they wait for the desperate resellers to purge so they can be left alone with exclusive deadstock. And the people on this forum do not make a good indicator of RRL's target demographic, who sent poor ol' jimmyfingers so much money they got him suspended from paypal so you cheap bastards can jump on an employee discount because you refuse to pay MSRP or can't afford it. You can't really blame paypal either, I mean, this guy went from have a big $0 to suddenly receiving thousands of dollars in "gift" money. What did you expect them to do? They have billion dollars invested into fraud detection I could have seen this coming a mile away and have warned him this would happen in one of my previous posts.

    Now that the outlets are not getting RRL sellers who still have a stash are milking it for every cent and if they sit on it for years, it doesn't really matter, since RRL isn't fashion forward in the first place (wool cardigans, straight leg blue jeans and selvedge chambrays aren't going to become outdated) this stuff costs virtually nothing to float, not to mention it's a good investment, since money isn't safe anywhere... investing in clothing/textiles is a good idea. RRL is going downhill in quality, shirts that are no longer selvedge, jeans made of cheaper American denim, higher price points, etc older stock will become more valuable over time to adjust for inflation, will become harder to find and more sought after.

    Also feedback is not a good indicator of what someone is actually selling. If someone has X fb per month you can expect their sales to be about 2 or 3x their feedback, since buyers are not particularly fond of leaving fb after they get what they want.
     
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  2. Timbaland

    Timbaland Senior member

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    So people who buy RRL from outlets and sell it at massive profits are legit but people who flip it just to fund their booze and cigs are shady?
     


  3. RRL CLOTHING

    RRL CLOTHING Senior member

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    Not just anybody can make massive profits selling on ebay or stay successful for long periods of time. It takes years to learn how to deal with ebay/paypal policies, discovering methods to get around purchasing restrictions and acquire a deep understanding of what you are selling.

    The shady sellers I was referring to were the ones jimmyfingers mentioned who shoplift and sell for scraps to fuel their alcohol and drug addiction.
     
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  4. osadolor619

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    Wow.
     


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  6. cyc wid it

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    Is this that same guy who spouted off all that racist stuff and went on and on about preserving the "purity/sanctity/vision/whatever" of RRL? Apparently resellers aren't the target demographic either because they aren't buying @ retail.
     
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  7. Ghost01

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  8. deez nuts

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    curious, what is the "limit"?
     


  9. edubs01

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    Got a chance to check out the Deadwood collection.
    Mostly all Black/Red items.
    Also saw the return of the infamous Jack Rabbit shirt.
     


  10. zissou

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    Retroactive to 1/1/11, Paypal is required to report anyone who receives over 200 payments and $20,000 in gross payments for goods and services each year. Splitting up payments between multiple accounts doesn't help.

    If the guys on here who took advantage of an employee discount are cheap bastards, what does that make the guys who buy at 80-90% off retail?
     
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  11. NorCal_1

    NorCal_1 Senior member

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    is this true??? RL is no longer sending RRL to outlets? if not, where are the discounted items going, to stores only????
     
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  12. kmdsimpson

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    Guilty as charged... :satisfied: But in all seriousness, the ebay and paypal situations are normal business for them. If ebay is forced by the IRS to report sales, then they are going to do it. The paypal account locking is harsh, but normal procedure for them. They are justifiably vigilant about fraud (remember, paypal has access to people's bank accounts - do you NOT want them to be concerned about fraud?!) . And their terms of service are pretty clear about charging fees for commercial transactions. I feel really bad for Jimmy, because he was trying to do something nice and it's turned into a bad situation. But let's stop with the demonizing of ebay and paypal and calling them assholes. We all have our eyes open about trying to get around the system. I'd love it if someone had a better idea for payments on this board. Maybe it is worth trying to get more Amazon or Google usage here.
     


  13. kmdsimpson

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    Yeah, this. And also no more Collections in the future? What's the real story here?
     


  14. Ghost01

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    I wouldn't worry about the collection - it won't be true that they will stop with them. There's no way they could fill a store like West Broadway with just Icons and Suiting.
     


  15. narcissism

    narcissism Senior member

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    I don't think the bit about the outlets not receiving RRL anymore is true. I would expect to see more RRL in outlets over the next years as the brand grows from the website.
     


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