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I also think those guys look sloppy in their clothes, with their shirts untucked and just not very put-together. I'm very biased toward the RRL aesthetic, with shirts tucked in, showing prominent/vintage style belts, and everything worn in the correct heritage style of the clothes themselves. But I also understand those guys are not necessarily proponents of RRL styling, even though they carry some RRL products. Also, I don't mean to open a potentially contentious discussion about how things "should" be worn, so maybe I should end it with that. But yes, overall, I don't think the SOP guy and the Iron Shop guy look great in their clothes, not because of their size or body type, but because of how they dress.

Hmm, I guess I am in the minority here, but I don't see any issue with how SOP uses their models. I think there's a difference between showing how something "should be worn" or "is recommended to be worn" vs. showing how something fits on different body types. For the former, you can take inspiration from RRL lookbooks. I think SOP caters to people who want to know the latter.

Almost every other retailer carrying RRL uses "generic" models (6'3"+ lanklets), so I appreciate that SOP adds some diversity to that pool. Have you seen the ssense models?
 

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Hmm, I guess I am in the minority here, but I don't see any issue with how SOP uses their models. I think there's a difference between showing how something "should be worn" or "is recommended to be worn" vs. showing how something fits on different body types. For the former, you can take inspiration from RRL lookbooks. I think SOP caters to people who want to know the latter.

Almost every other retailer carrying RRL uses "generic" models (6'3"+ lanklets), so I appreciate that SOP adds some diversity to that pool. Have you seen the ssense models?
Speaking as a 6'2" lanklet myself, I also appreciate seeing the clothes on an actual variety of people. It helps to better see the quality and fit. I hate when boutiques only reuse Ralph's photos.

However, I fully agree with the criticisms about styling. The RRL team produces genuine art. I sit and look through those catalogues for fun. They do a terrific job selling the fantasy. But the way most boutiques style them is not conducive to that fantasy. Personally I think Cultizm consistently does the best job in that regard, and maybe Mr. Porter.

Looked it up and found it.

I mean, I guess spaceman's "hipsters" assumption isn't wrong :laugh:


That was... more than a little cringeworthy.
 

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Livingstones and that olive special edition with the buckle back. I put the belt over the buckle and it’s uncomfortable, so I guess I’ll just cut it off.
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RRL-esque Polo jacquard overshirt-over dyed, levis slevedge, red wing steel toe boots

Latest alteration-The overshirt being mentioned here on SF led me to buy it. Was a little too bright/loud for my taste so I over dyed it black w some Rit in the washing machine to mute/tone it down. Came out exactly how I wanted.

All my pics are after. Web pic is before
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Hmm, I guess I am in the minority here, but I don't see any issue with how SOP uses their models. I think there's a difference between showing how something "should be worn" or "is recommended to be worn" vs. showing how something fits on different body types. For the former, you can take inspiration from RRL lookbooks. I think SOP caters to people who want to know the latter.

Almost every other retailer carrying RRL uses "generic" models (6'3"+ lanklets), so I appreciate that SOP adds some diversity to that pool. Have you seen the ssense models?
I tried to be very careful about how I worded my post. I specifically said I don’t care for the way the SOP/IS guys look not because of the person’s size or body type, but because of how they wear the clothes. Again, I prefer the RRL heritage aesthetic of shirts tucked in showing off a great belt versus shirts untucked with the top button fastened and the bottom button undone. This holds true regardless of the size and shape of the person wearing it. These clothes can be stylish on any man; short, tall, slim, or stout. I thought I made that clear, but I apologize if I didn’t. Hopefully I’ve made it clear now. As far as seeing how the clothes look on different body types, the SOP/IS models don’t really accomplish that because they all look to be very common/average height and weight.
 
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I tried to be very careful about how I worded my post. I specifically said I don’t care for the way the SOP/IS guys look not because of the person’s size or body type, but because of how they wear the clothes. Again, I prefer the RRL heritage aesthetic of shirts tucked in showing off a great belt versus shirts untucked, possibly with the top button fastened and the bottom button undone. This holds true regardless of the size and shape of the person wearing it. These clothes can be stylish on any man; short, tall, slim, or stout. I thought I made that clear, but I apologize if I didn’t. Hopefully I’ve made it clear now. As far as seeing how the clothes look on different body types, the SOP/IS models don’t really accomplish that because they all look to be very common/average height and weight.
No worries, I got what you meant the first time, just wanted to add my take :)
 

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Those provisions shops are small businesses so I can't really blame them for not hiring models for their photos whereas Ralph's revenue is in the billions and he can afford to hire professional models and photographers. I wonder how many of them even break $1M in revenue a year.

Running an independent clothing store isn't easy or cheap, isn't wholesale price generally 40% to 50% of the retail price? Then they have to pay for rent, utilities, employees, web hosting, developers, etc.
 

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Those provisions shops are small businesses so I can't really blame them for not hiring models for their photos whereas Ralph's revenue is in the billions and he can afford to hire professional models and photographers. I wonder how many of them even break $1M in revenue a year.

Running an independent clothing store isn't easy or cheap, isn't wholesale price generally 40% to 50% of the retail price? Then they have to pay for rent, utilities, employees, web hosting, developers, etc.
no disagreement, didnt want to hurt any feelings. Just saying I am hater :)
 

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Also, wanted to add for whomever was interested in the Filson jacket and the PRL green jacket that was just posted.
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The Filson beartooth jacket that is similar to this jacket is of a similar price point but much higher quality, the cotton is much heavier duty however the fit is not very flattering. On me, Size Large fits my shoulders and sleeves perfectly but very baggy and Medium is much too short in the sleeves. Typical filson sizing for me.

This PRL piece fits much better for me but the cotton and lining are much cheaper feeling. However I love the pattern and the vibrant green color so I sold the Filson off and kept this one. Its a much lighter piece though which can be a good thing. I wouldnt dare dying it with black dye though. :O
 

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