The SA's in the Polo stores can give the discounted price even if the line you're buying is excluded. I try to find the most knowledgeable sales person that's into RRL and chat them up. It works almost all of the time. The standalone RRL stores won't discount if RRL is excluded from the sale... it also helps if you go in prior to the sale, pick out what you want and make sure the SA will hook you up. do you need the card or can you just ask for the sale?