I am actually considering these pants as well. I contacted the seller for measurements but never got a response. For make-an-offer, the seller can do it one of two ways: 1) They can view all offers that come in manually, or 2) They can have ebay automatically decline offers below a certain amount (set by seller). The "good" offers are then sent to the seller to consider So is this worth the asking price? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ht_3868wt_1139 I am guessing this is $190 retail.