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Transcendental

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I'm not saying there is anything wrong with China's quality control or construction. Most of RL's clothing comes from China anyway. I am a proponent of being competitive and making clothing outside US, Italy, etc.

However this will significantly lower the brands prestige since the denim was the core product. What I don't like is jeans made of Japanese selvedge and in the USA going for $360 then next season being made in China using Chinese denim for the same price. It's clear RL's profits will be higher and the consumer pays more for a lesser quality product.

Why would I pay $250+ for Chinese jeans when I can get Japanese jeans for the same price. It doesn't make sense to a denim enthusiast. RRL will become another ubiquitous mall-brand like Polo if everything comes from China. I suppose that is good for business... selling mass produced rehashed junk at ridiculous prices then at huge discounts is still better for the bottom line...


Yes- absolutely I agree. Just threw in my .02 as I didn't know your particular thoughts. I still recommend RRL as an eBay buy for people stepping into the brand. I don't find the idea lowered prestige too stinging. I understand for purists/collectors this may not be the case, but a simple pragmatic pair will get it done for me, while the ethos may have changed. Has it been determined that the denim is created in China? Maybe the final production occurs there? I did a quick search but I did not find much. As far as Cone goes, some of the separate/newer stuff is also complete trash in comparison, so that's why I hesitate to change my thoughts on country of origin.
 
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Just noticed new items on RRL online. Empire Denim buckle backs and a brown/butterscotch motorcycle leather jacket. Anyone know when we might see the rest?
 

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I went with a 31, a size down from my standard chino size. fit tight out of the box but have loosened up some.
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lol i didnt know "Dave's photos" were yours, Dave_SFU!
 
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I'm here now. Sad I know. Its 80 off most stuff. A lot of 36 reg sports jackets but the style is really underwhelming. A few purple label here and there retailing at 3000 for the sports jacket.
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Check the uk site they seem to have just about all if the new stuff online already, then you know what to expect when we get it .
 

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Check the uk site they seem to have just about all if the new stuff online already, then you know what to expect when we get it .

Where do you see that?
Also, it seems like they changed the Eurpean sites in that you cannot have a non-flash view of RRL items anymore. If you put something in your cart and then click on it, it won't appear under RRL in non-flash but just under the category like 'jeans'.
For some time weirdly RRL items were also shown within a Denim&Supply frame. But that seems to have been corrected.
 

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Ha, a simple search for RRL is doing the trick :)
Some pretty cool shirts (the indigo with reddish polka dots stands out; new bulldog shirts (striped and indigo plaid (this unfortunately heavily washed) , shawl collar cardigan, sports coat, striped sweater

. Great is the beach cloth vest.
And is the denim jacket any different from the recent LE one? Heavier fabric perhaps.

 

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Why wouldn't they be legit? What reason do you have for suspecting they are possibly fake? Have you actually read any of this thread at all?


Haha. I've read a lot of this thread but I have a job and life so I can't study the whole thing. I know there are plenty of experts on here so I seeked out expert knowledge. Kind of like if I wanted to buy a car and knew little about them I would seek out an expert to help me.
 

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