Digging up an old post there. The conclusion I came to is that common sense says these aren't fakes, but retagged samples that were pulled from production before being finished. The red tabs were sewn in after the fact. It would also explain the cardboard patches, the chalk lines, and why the jeans seem unfinished (missing rivets, tagged size significantly different from measured size). I kept the 37s as beaters and returned the other two. They have the "rusted" buttons and Made in Turkey from the LVC distressed/washed denim, but they are raw. This is a pretty big hint that they were samples pulled from production pre-wash. If they are fakes, they are very bad and made by someone who is either completely inept or who went through a lot of effort to make them actually look this bad.