The Official Dieworkwear Appreciation Thread

[StaticProgression]

Scratchy wool overshirts are one thing that should have stayed in the past IMO.

I'd return it personally. A baggier cotton flannel shirt in plaid, or an LL Bean chamois shirt would be a good alternative. You can find used ones in great condition on Etsy. They're bulletproof and will likely outlive you.

On that note, I think cotton is also better than wool for robes. I bought a nice wool robe, but ran into the same itchy situation as you.

Glad to hear someone shares that sentiment. I felt dumb but it's an overshirt, not rocket science - it shouldn't be so hard to wear. the product photos always sell it well. Thanks!

 

[TheShetlandSweater]

Question: What do people wear with wool overshirts? I feel like these look awesome in catalogs etc. but I now have one and cannot figure out how to wear it - a t shirt looks great but it's so scratchy, and a long sleeve gets that dreaded pull on the internal sleeves and just in general creates that classic "long sleeve under hoodie bunching" problem.

Am I someone who just has a wool irritation and no one else has this issue, or does anyone have recommendations for sub-layers that work well? Thanks!

Below is the TS overshirt I have that displays the actual usage problems for me - #1 is short sleeve, #2 is just impractical (doesn't get that cold down here, and honestly, I couldn't move my arms around with that much on. I've tried)

I'd wear an ocbd under it. If sleeves are catching, get them lined?

 

[FlyingHorker]

Glad to hear someone shares that sentiment. I felt dumb but it's an overshirt, not rocket science - it shouldn't be so hard to wear. the product photos always sell it well. Thanks!

Yeah man, realistically you'll end up wearing those kind of overshirts over a t-shirt, so having a scratchy layer is pretty miserable.

Really going to harp about the LL Bean Chamois shirts. They're quite dense and are probably what most people want in an overshirt. They feel fuzzy, cozy, and even a bit stiff.

 

[scurvyfreedman]

Preaching to the choir. Even at those temps, the wind is intense here. That alone would make you look ridiculous if you wore your coat open, it would be flapping all over the place.

Not sure how windy NYC gets.

The wind is worse in the City than it is in the suburbs because the buildings create wind tunnels.

 

[imatlas]

Scratchy wool overshirts are one thing that should have stayed in the past IMO.

I had a Pendleton shirt that I loved but always struggled with this. Coarse wool against skin is very uncomfortable.

Really going to harp about the LL Bean Chamois shirts. They're quite dense and are probably what most people want in an overshirt. They feel fuzzy, cozy, and even a bit stiff.

I grew up with these, and they are the definition of a flannel shirt for me.

 

[FlyingHorker]

The wind is worse in the City than it is in the suburbs because the buildings create wind tunnels.

Yeah, no chance I'd wear a coat open then unless it was spring or fall.

I had a Pendleton shirt that I loved but always struggled with this. Coarse wool against skin is very uncomfortable.


I grew up with these, and they are the definition of a flannel shirt for me.

I didn't even discover them until I read a couple PutThisOn articles.

I always wanted to like plaid flannels, but I never liked how they looked. Everyone wears them in the Prairies, so I became jaded to the lumberjack look.

I can appreciate some blackwatch flannel though, that plaid isn't seen often here.

 

[StaticProgression]

I had a Pendleton shirt that I loved but always struggled with this. Coarse wool against skin is very uncomfortable.


I grew up with these, and they are the definition of a flannel shirt for me.

The LL Bean Chamois' look legit. Gonna try to thrift one off ebay or something to test out. the Signature line has such pleasing plaids.

 

[Leiker]

Question: What do people wear with wool overshirts? I feel like these look awesome in catalogs etc. but I now have one and cannot figure out how to wear it - a t shirt looks great but it's so scratchy, and a long sleeve gets that dreaded pull on the internal sleeves and just in general creates that classic "long sleeve under hoodie bunching" problem.

Am I someone who just has a wool irritation and no one else has this issue, or does anyone have recommendations for sub-layers that work well? Thanks!

Below is the TS overshirt I have that displays the actual usage problems for me - #1 is short sleeve, #2 is just impractical (doesn't get that cold down here, and honestly, I couldn't move my arms around with that much on. I've tried)

A long sleeve tshirt or long sleeve henley?

 

[hpreston]

No wool allergy, but, at the same time, no time for clothes that are not con for table either.

For overshirts/“shackets”, depending on the fit, I wear them over short sleeved tees, long sleeved tees, and a few that a more jacket, than shirt, wear them over a button down….. I have a brushed cotton flannel from drakes, that is super soft and cozy, and a piece from Tony Shirts in a brushed wool that feels great over a tee. I had one in scratchier wool, that I sent to luxe swap since I would never wear it.

 

[UrbanComposition]

@hpreston I actually got rid of all my scratchy wool overshirts for that reason. I have a high tolerance for wool but the old Pendleton’s were just too much. Although I really like them, as well as the TS shirts you posted (I used to have that cranberry one), they were impractical as I had to dry clean them every time they got dirty. So I switched to washable heavy cotton flannels (if I’m actually working in them) or soft wool blends (as overshirts). If you like TS, every so often they do make uber soft wool blend overshirts, so stay on the lookout.

If a wholesale change isn’t an option, you can always wear a tee, henley, waffle thermal, or chamois shirt. OCBDs are OK but I find they don’t jive well with woolly overshirts.

 

[jaaz16]

A follow-up flannel question for you all (thanks again for the previous insights). Tl;dr version: Does the temperature of gray flannel matter for pairing with navy--i.e., can a warmer gray flannel pair with a navy sport coat and/or knits?

One of Derek's older articles helpfully shows the value of pairing temperatures (with some exceptions, such as accessories—“navy ties go with everything”). But I wasn’t entirely sure how that works for the classic (basic?) navy coat-gray trousers workhorse combination.

Now on to the me-specific question: I'm considering some mid-gray flannel trousers that are on the warmer side. Putting them up against navy doesn’t give me the same reaction I had to the photo of Simon in Derek’s article (cool gray trousers and warm tan coat), but I wasn’t sure if I was missing some of the subtleties.

Spoiler: What I’m working with

Spoiler: Bonus: Mossrocks inspo

 

[Gus]

One of Derek's older articles helpfully shows the value of pairing temperatures (with some exceptions, such as accessories—“navy ties go with everything”). But I wasn’t entirely sure how that works for the classic (basic?) navy coat-gray trousers workhorse combination.

FWIW, after wearing a classic grey flannel as my go-too for decades, I find a lighter colored dove grey flannel to be my favorite with a navy blazer. I think it looks a bit less "old guy going to church" or security guard. I lighter grey flannel also looks a bit more "sporty" or styled (?) when worn with a great sweater and no jacket. I have a rack of shades of grey trousers and I pretty find myself only reaching for this lighter shade anymore. I'd suggest considering a lighter shade.

 

[StaticProgression]

A follow-up flannel question for you all (thanks again for the previous insights). Tl;dr version: Does the temperature of gray flannel matter for pairing with navy--i.e., can a warmer gray flannel pair with a navy sport coat and/or knits?

One of Derek's older articles helpfully shows the value of pairing temperatures (with some exceptions, such as accessories—“navy ties go with everything”). But I wasn’t entirely sure how that works for the classic (basic?) navy coat-gray trousers workhorse combination.

Now on to the me-specific question: I'm considering some mid-gray flannel trousers that are on the warmer side. Putting them up against navy doesn’t give me the same reaction I had to the photo of Simon in Derek’s article (cool gray trousers and warm tan coat), but I wasn’t sure if I was missing some of the subtleties.

Spoiler: What I’m working with

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Spoiler: Bonus: Mossrocks inspo

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This is all a matter of opinion of course, and I like the first reply's opinion. But to speak to your specific question about the trousers you're working with, I like them. The texture really looks good, and I don't mind that at all. I agree with the general sentiment of mid to light gray trousers, though. Yours fall into that range for me. (love the split toes, btw)

 

[TheShetlandSweater]

A follow-up flannel question for you all (thanks again for the previous insights). Tl;dr version: Does the temperature of gray flannel matter for pairing with navy--i.e., can a warmer gray flannel pair with a navy sport coat and/or knits?

One of Derek's older articles helpfully shows the value of pairing temperatures (with some exceptions, such as accessories—“navy ties go with everything”). But I wasn’t entirely sure how that works for the classic (basic?) navy coat-gray trousers workhorse combination.

Now on to the me-specific question: I'm considering some mid-gray flannel trousers that are on the warmer side. Putting them up against navy doesn’t give me the same reaction I had to the photo of Simon in Derek’s article (cool gray trousers and warm tan coat), but I wasn’t sure if I was missing some of the subtleties.

Spoiler: What I’m working with

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Spoiler: Bonus: Mossrocks inspo

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A warmer grey can go very well with navy. You could even do taupe (warmer than gray) or brown (even warmer) with navy.

As far as value, though, I prefer a darker gray. Not charcoal, but darker somewhere between mid-gray and charcoal. Lighter gray is a little too bright IMO and makes the legs stand out more than is preferable. I also thinker darker is more urbane.

 

[dieworkwear]

A follow-up flannel question for you all (thanks again for the previous insights). Tl;dr version: Does the temperature of gray flannel matter for pairing with navy--i.e., can a warmer gray flannel pair with a navy sport coat and/or knits?

One of Derek's older articles helpfully shows the value of pairing temperatures (with some exceptions, such as accessories—“navy ties go with everything”). But I wasn’t entirely sure how that works for the classic (basic?) navy coat-gray trousers workhorse combination.

Now on to the me-specific question: I'm considering some mid-gray flannel trousers that are on the warmer side. Putting them up against navy doesn’t give me the same reaction I had to the photo of Simon in Derek’s article (cool gray trousers and warm tan coat), but I wasn’t sure if I was missing some of the subtleties.

Spoiler: What I’m working with

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Spoiler: Bonus: Mossrocks inspo

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All those combos look good to me. Not sure I would describe that gray as warm though. Maybe neutral?