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Yes, some posts get taken down after a while for various reasons. I've put that one back up, though.

Do people actually look at old posts? I just assumed the number who do so is so small, no one would care or notice.
Thank you for that! I tend to go back to your older posts pretty often, for example when discovering a new interest for a brand or an item, to check whether you've covered them in the past.
 

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That's like someone getting upset at "Asia Minor" because they think it's abstractly diminutive.
 

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As someone from the Far East currently living in the US, I don't really feel one way or the other about the term. It's just a bit dated, that's all.
 

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I‘ve never heard anyone in USA have a problem with the term but I’m willing to consider otherwise.
Sorry to assume!

I’ve heard it criticized in academic discourse but haven’t heard it problematized in common discussion in North America. As @Texasmade said, I just hadn’t heard the term used in a while. That wasn’t meant as a call out.
 

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somewhat related, i'm surprised people use "oriental" as a note/family in the fragrance world still
 

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somewhat related, i'm surprised people use "oriental" as a note/family in the fragrance world still

There's really nothing particularly odd about that either. Europe also used to be called the Occident. Both derive from Latin terms which denote where the sun sets (occidens) and rises (oriens). So an oriental scent uses ingredients mainly found in the East.

If anything, Asian should be a far worse term, as it lumps together hugely divergent nations, and is culturally specific.
 

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There’re definitely a few posts that I go back to and re-read from time to time, notably “Minimalism as Expressive Shape”, please put that up again! Partly because the ideas are interesting, and partly because the ideas are laid out in such a clear and coherent manner, with some cool styling as a bonus.
 

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There's really nothing particularly odd about that either. Europe also used to be called the Occident. Both derive from Latin terms which denote where the sun sets (occidens) and rises (oriens). So an oriental scent uses ingredients mainly found in the East.

If anything, Asian should be a far worse term, as it lumps together hugely divergent nations, and is culturally specific.
You can call objects oriental like oriental rugs or whatever but you can't call people oriental. As my Vietnamese friend used to say "I'm not a ******* rug".

i was aware of the origins of the term oriental but it is a good point to think of the basis for the term in the perfume world, makes sense. also good to think about objects vs people with that term.

thanks for both replies!
 

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You can call objects oriental like oriental rugs or whatever but you can't call people oriental. As my Vietnamese friend used to say "I'm not a ******* rug".

Yep, and it also wouldn't make any sense, linguistically.
 

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Yes, some posts get taken down after a while for various reasons. I've put that one back up, though.

Do people actually look at old posts? I just assumed the number who do so is so small, no one would care or notice.

I sometimes search for old things that I read a few years ago - like the one on Scottish cashmere or when I'm in the market for a particular type of item, I'll search your archives to see what comes up.
 

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