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Hedi only released 3 fragrances in the now Maison Christian Dior line: Eau Noire, Cologne Blanche, and Bois d’Argent. Cologne Blanche got discontinued. Eau Noire got tweaked a bit and became limited distribution. Bois d’Argent got tweaked and is still part of their lineup. I will test the current version of Bois d’Argent on skin to see how it differs from the original in the next couple of days and report back.
For the prestige tier, he released Dior Homme,
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Dior Homme Cologne (my speculation),
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and Fahrenheit 32.
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Dior Homme Intense and Eau Sauvage Fraicheur Cuir were also launched in 2007 which suggests that Hedi might have had to approve of it late 2006 and early 2007 before he left Dior Homme, but I haven’t smelled either to see if it reflects his style. Dior Homme got tweaked and is now called Dior Homme Original and also limited distribution. Dior Homme Cologne got discontinued and replaced with a new fragrance with the same name in a white bottle. Fahrenheit 32 and Eau Sauvage Fraicheur Cuir got discontinued. Dior Homme Intense got tweaked and is still available in most places, but never where I’ve been.
Now with all that said, it has only ever been confirmed on record that Hedi was involved with Dior Homme and Fahrenheit 32. Hedi doesn’t even mention Dior Homme Intense in the Celine interviews. The only reason I would consider Dior Homme Cologne an Hedi release is because it shares the same neroli idea as Parade which would suggest that Hedi was behind Dior Homme Cologne’s creation as well, but I have zero evidence to back this up. Just based in reviews of Dior Homme Intense it seems like it strays too far from Hedi’s style and is too gaudy. I’m not a fan of Eau Sauvage so I don’t really care about the Fraicheur Cuir flanker. Although Fahrenheit 32 is positioned as a flanker to Fahrenheit, it is an entirely new fragrance and only distantly related. That’s the only reason I think I like it, as I’m not a fan of Fahrenheit either.
Moral of the story is that after Hedi left, all his fragrances either got tweaked, or discontinued. So I get it when Hedi says his fragrances are esoteric. I wouldn’t deter people from trying the modern versions of Eau Noire, Bois d’Argent, and Dior Homme Original.
What’s interesting is that although I liked the smell of all of Hedi’s Dior fragrances, I never liked wearing a lot of them out. Eau Noire is brooding, intense, and arrogant. Bois d’Argent leans more warm and elegant than how I usually dress despite having this magnetic drydown. Cologne Blanche feels a bit too “soft” and cozy for how I usually dress despite being my 10/10 scent, so I love wearing it to bed. Dior Homme feels like it is trying to be too sexy. Fahrenheit 32 is quite intense with the sporty vibe and vanilla sweetness. I ended up mostly wearing Dior Homme Cologne out while reserving the rest for when I'm at home. This is why I’m glad to add his Celine fragrances to my collection. I can see myself wearing Parade, Cologne Française, Eau de Californie, and Reptile more regularly than his Dior fragrances. Nightclubbing would be my guilty pleasure.
Hedi was one of the first to pioneer the idea of exclusive fragrances for luxury designer brands back in 2004. Now almost every designer brand has an exclusive line. Cologne Blanche just melts me and almost short circuits my brain. I'm starting to notice the same effect in Parade, where I just have to stop everything, when the smell hits, to close my eyes. Might be too dangerous to wear out. The price of Dior Homme Cologne on the secondhand market rivals Parade now. Initially, I thought about getting a backup bottle of Dior Homme Cologne because I'm familiar with it, and how it feels like the older brother of Parade, but Parade might hit the pleasure centres in my brain more. I never noticed this sensation with Dior Homme Cologne. Dior Homme Cologne is nice and enjoyable, but Parade is pleasurable.Bois d'Argent was my absolute favorite. This line was their most expensive and exclusive fragrance collection at the time and only available at the boutique. They sold a whole range of accessories for the fragrances including a $300 silver lid and travel trunk for the fragrances.
I can totally see the Celine SAs rocking Bois d'Argent. There is some warmth in their pinstripe shirt with one button unbuttoned.Excellent discussion. Bois d’argent is easily my favorite Dior fragrance. I tend to wear it in New York when fully tailored out. That said it is strong and impactful so Dior Homme is a more practical competitor for daily wearer.
“Hedi Slimane, the artistic director of Dior Homme, had commissioned three colognes for three masculine personas, and listed materials he loved, such as incense, liquorice, lavender… then he let us do our jobs. He’s a creator. He trusted the perfumers. I guess he’d asked for me because he’d smelled Lolita, but I’d already worked on the liquorice-lavender accord in the masculine Lolita. Francis Kurkdjian ended up doing the liquorice in Eau Noire. I only sent one submission, for what became Bois d’argent, adding vanilla to the incense he’d asked for. As it was meant to be for a dandy, I’d called it Alfred, after the poet Alfred de Musset."
I've always wondered what are dandies. I see how they're often "content creators". Plays, poetry, and music is what they spend their time on.By the time he reached the age of 20, his rising literary fame was already accompanied by a sulphurous reputation fed by his dandy side.
He was a well-known figure in brothels and is widely accepted to be the anonymous author-client who beat and humiliated the author and courtesan Céleste de Chabrillan, also known as La Mogador.
I resonate with the idea of cultivating the idea of beauty in myself.Charles Baudelaire defined the dandy, in the later "metaphysical" phase of dandyism,[5] as one who elevates æsthetics to a living religion,[6] that the dandy's mere existence reproaches the responsible citizen of the middle class: "Dandyism in certain respects comes close to spirituality and to stoicism" and "These beings have no other status, but that of cultivating the idea of beauty in their own persons, of satisfying their passions, of feeling and thinking .... Dandyism is a form of Romanticism. Contrary to what many thoughtless people seem to believe, dandyism is not even an excessive delight in clothes and material elegance. For the perfect dandy, these things are no more than the symbol of the aristocratic superiority of mind."
I prefer a more muted less over-the-top style than what is traditionally associated with dandies.By the mid-19th century, the English dandy, within the muted palette of male fashion, exhibited minute refinements—"The quality of the fine woollen cloth, the slope of a pocket flap or coat revers, exactly the right colour for the gloves, the correct amount of shine on boots and shoes, and so on. It was an image of a well-dressed man who, while taking infinite pains about his appearance, affected indifference to it. This refined dandyism continued to be regarded as an essential strand of male Englishness."
George Walden, in the essay Who's a Dandy?, identifies Noël Coward, Andy Warhol, and Quentin Crisp as modern dandies.[23] The character Psmith in the novels of P. G. Wodehouse is considered a dandy, both physically and intellectually. Agatha Christie's Poirot is said to be a dandy.
Parade refers to dandyism and how to present oneself to the world. Do you like the term "dandy" and does it look like you? Does the elegance of the street still exist?
I have always been sensitive to the ritual, to the liturgy of appearances. Dandyism crystallized a large number of conventions in men's fashion. There is here the idea of the transmission, the legacy of the great historical dandies, of the nineteenth-century literature to pop and rock scenes since the 1960s. From Baudelaire to Huysmans and his hero, Des Esseintes, from Gainsbourg to Dutronc, through the Clash, Doherty and many others, still today, the dandies continue to paradoxically parade. By extension, the history of rock merges with the attributes of historical dandies. Parade was created on the very idea of transmission and the unchanging ritual of appearances. I also meet very often and photograph young musicians 18-20 years particularly sophisticated in London, Paris, and Los Angeles.
I agree with you and I don't think fragrances are essential. I treat it similar to accessories like necklaces, bracelets, and rings, all of which are optional.this fragrance discussion is fascinating, im personally not into it (sure, it smells good?) and have always been into the tactile and visual. great to see people enthusiastic about the slice of it im not into, understand how people experience and consume it. its like taking cream with coffee when i really just want the clothes black.
Yet even as he layers these visual elements, Mr. Teste hopes to draw people in by their noses, rather than their eyes. Mr. Kurkdjian’s three scents are released at various moments in the play. The first, a wet, mossy forest smell, disseminates as the last stragglers take their seats.
You can see how the aim is for the scent and visual experience to combine together to create something more than the sum of its parts to elicit a feeling from the audience.The second scent represents a fireplace. It’s not the cozy scent of a soul-warming hearth, Mr. Kurkdjian said, but a cold, marble fireplace after the flame has been extinguished. The soot and ash left behind is meant to help the audience “feel the sourness” of a conversation between a son and his father, whose sins this son disclosed to the entire family.
Scents add an additional dimension to the overall experience that wouldn't be possible without the scent. When I recognized that I treat myself as a performance art piece, adding an olfactory element to my performance became a no brainer. But the question is then what fragrances should I choose?While the first two scents are more smell-odor than fragrance-perfume, the third most closely resembles Mr. Kurkdjian’s commercial endeavors. Rather than representing nature, this scent is meant to be the perfume of the daughter who died — the one that she would have worn in life. It conjures her memory. The play ends on a note of peace and reconciliation, and a return to the forest scent.
The fruity fig is the opening absolutely delicious. Cologne Française probably has my favourite opening in the entire line. This element helps lift the fragrance up a bit so it doesn't become very dark when the slightly smokey woods and the musky creamy base comes in. There is an overall clean feeling to this fragrance, like many in the line, without smelling like laundry detergent. There is something in the base that reminds me of Sauvage's creamy, slightly mineral, and at time woody, base. There is overall an elegant feeling, but not uptight. Feels introverted paired with insouciance. I wouldn't mistake their introversion for meekness, however. There is an attitude present.All that said, I feel like Cologne Française being a bit darker and less warm is an even better fit for my overall style, but I'll have to wear it a bit more to really get a feeling of it.
Was just coming to post this. OT: the Lanvin Babar stuff is great, shame the web store has stopped shipping to my country.oh no they copied babeteeth lol