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The official CELINE thread

SirGrotius

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Love that the pieces or a good bit of them were made in France. Now that it's been mentioned that this will be Hedi's Chanel it makes a lot of sense (and not only because of the similarities in names, haha!).

My favorite pieces from Dior are made in France. Maybe it's a selection bias, but they ooze quality.
 

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what do you feel about critics saying that it is just Saint Laurent over again? What do you mean by Hedi matured?
Most of the criticism I've heard is that its just Dior Homme and SL all over again.. but I don't see how that is a bad thing..
I still wear my old DH and SL pieces - mostly basics, shirting, some jackets, sweaters, denim, chelseas, and they still look as fresh and modern and upscale.

I suppose people are just now used to the Virgils, Micheles, Gvasilias of the world and expect loud clothes. Fashion in general is overrun by a new type of clientele and buyer. Just look at shops like HLorenzo and Atelier where they are now selling yeezy and off white and even will smiths son msft label, obviously to cash in on this streetwear craze. It's no wonder they view this as boring.

In the case of Hedi maturing, he's sticking to his thing and combining elements of his past work and making it even more understated and elegant. This is nothing like SL first runway show where you can spot someone out in wyatts on the street, the clothes here you'd never know where they came from and that is the kind of design i admire and respect. A minimalist approach where the design is in the details.

Call me crazy but luxury used to be an understated thing. Where people would only recognize your clothes by 4 pieces of stitching (margiela) or darts on the back of your jeans (dior) or even something as simple as an asymmetrical stitch in the back of your shirt (rick). But nowadays people want loud tigers printed all over their jeans and shoes as if were back to the old evisu and ed hardy days.
 

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Love that the pieces or a good bit of them were made in France. Now that it's been mentioned that this will be Hedi's Chanel it makes a lot of sense (and not only because of the similarities in names, haha!).

My favorite pieces from Dior are made in France. Maybe it's a selection bias, but they ooze quality.
That brings the reason I'm in love with this. Its not about big loud images that will get you recognized on the street. its about quiet, quality luxury that makes you feel good about your purchase. Hermes for example, you have to respect their quiet conservative styling, but there is quality in it. This to me feels like its striving to do that but with a bit of an edge.

I think that was the one thing that Hedi was limited by at SL was the production methods. I think the change from DH where he could get away with really beautiful materials to SL where he was constricted by profit margins will let him really go wild at Celine.

I can't speak about phoebe philo, I know people have a lot of strong opinions, but no one got this brash about the subject when alexander wang took over nicholas ghesquire at Balenciaga. Just let things continue and move on and think with your wallet.
 

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Balenciaga has been dead for a while now. Also as someone who owns a good amount of old DH and SLP basics I’m under no illusions of artistitic or intellectual merit. It’s straightforward and easy for me to wear. Not much to it beyond that.

I’m not nearly the expert that a lot of other posters here are but it’s difficult to look at what Phoebe put out and not find it more interesting. I mean even looking at something basic like silhouette. Also, very wearable.
 
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The backlash is stronger since Celine was mainly a brand made for females made by a female which lead to the strong reaction.
 

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As scanner said, this is one of those things you have to let ride for a few days or weeks. It seems that the angst has died down a bit already. I'm interested to know when and how some of the pieces will be available for purchase.
 

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what you mean 'how'?

i'd imagine go to the shop and buy them / order from places like mr porter etc
 

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I'm a bit curious if they'll be all in the web shop akin to YSL or will do more of the Dior thing where the focus is on the boutiques. But yes, a bit opaque of a "how" !

(Obviously the future is toward the web shops but there's still an air, maybe?, of exclusivity when the whole gamut is not available for instant purchase online.)

Finally, brands that sell on MrPorter are more common to me than if they eschew it.
 

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Hey when is this going to start to hit stores?
 

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I seem to remember someone saying that the hiring of Slimane is part of an effort to drastically improve sales. Given that, I'd be shocked if they didn't also increase the availability of online shopping.
 

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I seem to remember someone saying that the hiring of Slimane is part of an effort to drastically improve sales. Given that, I'd be shocked if they didn't also increase the availability of online shopping.
They're going to do exactly that. You'll be able to get Celine at Mr. Porter, ssense, matches fashion, etc.

If you go look on Celine's instagram and read the comments, you'll see people say things like "idk why they hired Hedi to increase profits, they were making enough money!!"These people act like they own Celine. It's quite amusing actually.
 
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Does LVMH break down revenues or profits by maison?
 

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If you go look on Celine's instagram and read the comments, you'll see people say things like "idk why they hired Hedi to increase profits, they we making enough money!!"These people act like they own Celine. It's quite amusing actually.
No they're acting like people that previously cared for a brand that represented one thing, only to be ripped apart to represent the complete opposite and all in the interest of feeding the LVMH money machine instead of the interest of creative fashion.

Not as many cared when Hedi brought about SLP because YSL wasn't doing much in the fashion world. At that time anyways. In this case however, Celine under Philo held a unique and relevant place in fashion. The destruction of this in favor of well... let's be honest another SLP? So now we have two SLP's and no Celine. That's not even including all the SLP clones that have arisen in the past few years. The fact that it was also previously a feminist fashion brand and the current climate around gender politics probably didn't help either.

I don't hate Slimane's work and view it similarly to @cyc wid it does. It certainly has a place in fashion but Slimane is predictably putting out more of the same only at a different label and it's just redundant. The situation is good for business, but pretty bad for fashion and making fun of old Celine fans for understandably being upset doesn't make any sense.
 

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Nah fuck that noise. The real truth is that Phoebe left. The Phoebe fans should just follow where she has gone. They only liked Celine because of Phoebe.
 

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I was told that the menswear will be available in February. Long but makes sense considering they're building from the ground up.
 

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