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The Official Carmina Sizing Thread

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by SpooPoker, Mar 5, 2012.

  1. venividivicibj

    venividivicibj Senior member

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    are rain and simpson basically the same except for the rain being wider? are both the same length? the toe looks basically the same.
     
  2. Petepan

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    Rain is wider, and the last is roomier. Length appears the same to me. If you look carefully, the Simpson toe is sleeker than the Rain toe.
     
  3. Burton

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    +1 Rain is wider--noticeably so. I also wonder, but did not think to examine this when I had both in my hands, if the Rain isn't more of a banana last than the Simpson. Rain is great for a wide forefoot. I went from owning no Carminas to owning four pair in a manner of two months because of the Rain last.
     
  4. RogerP

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    I don't know that the Simpson toe is proportionally sleeker than the Rain, so much as the overall shoe is narrower, including the toe.
     
  5. Burton

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    I agree the shoe is overall narrower, but, for me, the effect is really noticeable in the toe box. I have narrow heels and my foot is not a large volume foot. Generally I struggle with both wide shoes (like an F width 202 last from EG) or standard lasts like an "D" width Aberdeen from Alden. The Rain last works perfectly for me - wide in the toe box but without the carness feel of the 202.
     
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  6. P. Bateman

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    Thanks! Just received the pair tonight and they're great. Very snug but I think they'll break in just fine.
     
  7. easy_golfing

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    Really?? So Rain last would be good for me (I also have narrow heels)?
     
  8. Burton

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    I can't say -- don't know your foot. What I am saying is that I have a wide forefoot and narrow heels and the Rain works great for me.
     
  9. P. Bateman

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    Looking for some advice on the Forest last:

    I'm a 9.5D US Barrie and in the Uetem a very snug 8.5 UK, so I guess the question is do I keep the same 8.5 UK in the Forest or size up .5 to 9 UK?

    Thanks in advance!
     
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  10. NMW1982

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    Does anyone have any familiarity with the Carmina Detroit last?

    How does it compare in width and length to the standard Rain last?

    Thanks.
     
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  12. NMW1982

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    Definitely go up to a 9UK. IMO, the Barrie last is already almost UK sizing.

     
  13. saepnirg12

    saepnirg12 Senior member

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    I would greatly appreciate some help with sizing:

    C&J 341: 8.5UK
    C&J 348: extremely snug 8.5UK. Would probably do well with an 8.5 wide or 9.
    Loake Capital: 8.5UK
    Meermin Hiro: 8.5UK

    What size would I be in the Rain and Simpson lasts?
     
  14. venividivicibj

    venividivicibj Senior member

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    does anyone have any comparison between the carmine rain and the vass f last?
     
  15. RogerP

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    Two of my faves. I take a UK8.5 in most Carmina Rain and a Euro 43 in Vass F. I'd say the Rain has a slightly wider forefoot and the F a slightly higher instep.
     
  16. othertravel

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    Hey Roger, saw you rocking the navy wholecuts this morning. Rain last?

    I wasn't sure how versatile navy could be, but it actually does pair well with a suit. I'm going to take the plunge with some double monks.
     
  17. RogerP

    RogerP Senior member

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    ^^^ You did? Were you on the train with me?

    I was likewise unsure about navy until I took the plunge, but the wholecuts get a lot of wear - grey suits and navy blazer / grey trousers in particular. And yes, they are on the Rain last.
     
  18. othertravel

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    Bronte station! Think they're a good idea with a navy suit, or too much?
     
  19. RogerP

    RogerP Senior member

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    Well hello neighbour! I don't think they'd be too much with a navy suit, I just like to have a little contrast between trouser and shoe - strictly personal preference.
     
  20. laufer

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    hey you guys who bought Forest 861 CXL boot from the Shoemart check out the toe cops on your boots. The toe caps on my boots are uneven. The left toe cup is about a 5 millimeter longer than right toe cap. This is not something that bothers me but these shoes should have never left the factory.
     
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