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The Official Beer Thread

Discussion in 'Social Life, Food & Drink, Travel' started by DNW, Jul 20, 2007.

  1. Portland Dry Goods

    Portland Dry Goods Senior member

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    Ommegang is really impressive stuff. if you havent tried Three Philosophers yet, you should. might be their flagship beer for this kind of thing, but its not overrated. on par with what Allagash offers for big belgians. I'm sampling a bunch of wrestlemania themed beers tonight - not sure if you guys want the intel on those. all I know as of now is that someone cooked up a slim jim rauchbeer :embar:
     
  2. b1os

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    I suppose most of you know Beck's. It's a relatively popular, not that great, pils, which, to my knowledge, has relatively good availability outside of Germany. They've just launched a new line of products to jump on the craft-beer-hype-train (though they don't call it craft beer, but super premium beer). A pils which is supposed to be more like the pils they brewed when Beck's was founded (hence the name "1873 Pils"), a Pale Ale and an Amber Lager. First of all, I think it's great that larger breweries in Germany start to focus on non-watered-down/non-0815-beers. Köstritzer (you might know them for their Schwarzbier) released a craft beer line last year (a Pale Ale, which is surprisingly bitter and really quite delicious, and a witbier, which I haven't tried yet). The Beck's beers, unfortunately, aren't that great (and priced higher than the ones from Köstritzer). The Pils has some more IBUs than their regular offering, and some more alcohol. That's pretty much the only difference. It's better than the regular, but it's not great. The Amber Lager is very malty, relatively heavy and lacks something though I'm not sure what to pinpoint it on, but overall it's enjoyable. The Pale Ale is quite disappointing. Not refreshing, quite heavy, quite malty, like if you mix a bottle of decent/good pale ale, a bottle of their amber lager, and some water. All in all, thanks for the effort, but no thanks. It might pull some more young adults towards craft beer, but I suppose it might also scare some away who don't enjoy the taste of these beers (which is, to some extent for the Amber Lager and likely for the pale ale, quite possible). The labels look pretty good though.

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  3. indesertum

    indesertum Senior member

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    barbeque
     
  4. erictheobscure

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    I think you took more effort writing this up than Beck put into making those beers.
     
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  5. budapest12

    budapest12 Senior member

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    LOL - well said. Just had a Duchesse de Bourgogne. Flanders reds/browns - I'm in love.
     
  6. indesertum

    indesertum Senior member

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    Appreciate the write up tho
     
  7. budapest12

    budapest12 Senior member

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    Absolutely.
     
  8. b1os

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    Just had another bottle of Amber Lager. Very metallic-tasting. There are some beers where I don't particularly dislike it (though, if you were to ask me, I couldn't tell you which). Not the case with this beer.

    Speaking of which, what's the cause of the metallic taste?
     
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  9. indesertum

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    i notice a lot of metallic taste in lagers and goses in particular. i'm wondering if it has to do with yeast. it's ok in small amounts but i feel like in general it's a defect
     
  10. b1os

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    Yeah, many lagers I've had have it. I agree that a "small amount" can actually be tolerable (or even contribute to the flavor), but it can easily get too strong. Not sure about gose--I've actually only had like three bottles of gose (not that easy to source here), but I suppose gose is a tad more forgiving toward a metallic taste than a lager is.
     
  11. indesertum

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    http://kotmf.com/articles/flavor.pdf

    this says it's either from the lipids in the grains, metallic water, bad filtration, and contact with freshly scrubbed stainless steel containers

    so i wonder why i notice it often in lagers



    goses aren't easy to source in germany?
     
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  12. b1os

    b1os Senior member

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    Sadly, no.
     
  13. Pilot

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    From back in my college days, I distinctly remember Dos XX Amber and Amber Bock both having a metallic/blood taste to them.
     
  14. indesertum

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    Oh my god. I'm having this mort subite white lambic and that iron taste in blood is exactly how I would describe the finish. The front is nice and full of soft ripe peaches

    BJCP says a low ph will strip off the nickel coating in pipes and reveal the metal underneath. Makes total sense

    http://www.bjcp.org/cep/Metallic_Flavors.pdf
     
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    인데져틈... ㅠㅠ 같이 좀 마시쟈
     
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  16. indesertum

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    Bartender was nice enough to switch it to an upright gose. Goddamn delicious. It's a little maltier than traditional german goses and the lack of filtration adds a nice creaminess in texture

    I really want to ship this to nahneun but I don't think growlers travel well
     
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  17. hc4thehc

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    Lazy Sunday with mates...

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    Here's the weekend.

    Some Lunch on Friday. Still not sure what the hype is on this one but I'll gladly drink it.
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    Buddy from Portland came down and brought a growler of Patina Pale by Austin Street. Really liked this one.
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    Then I cracked a Flora Blue/Black. While this was definitely good it was a lot more subdued than I was expecting. Was hoping for more acidity or more fruit flavor.
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    Saturday I opened one of my Rare Barrel Bottles. This was pretty much perfect in my mind. Funky nose but the taste is all orange and tart. Really well balanced.
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    And for sunday, I drank my last Sip can.
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