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Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Digmenow, Mar 9, 2012.

  1. Brianpore

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    I just chose the cheapest / best feedback and was very impressed how fast it got here.
     
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    He has been great in all of my dealings with him. He even fulfilled requests for products he didn't normally stock.
     
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    Great thread.

    MOL, I have recently bought a Temple Of Jawnz VTG Collared Moto jacket, like the one seen below.

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    I find it a beautiful piece, but right now it is tough as nails and stiff (stands upright on it own). There are a few recommended ways to soften this jacket, the most common methods involving the use of Obenauf's oil.

    Poster Dellath has done some great work on his TOJ VTG jacket if you see his posts on the TOJ thread in SW&D. This is a pic he posted a while back, after a few applications of Obenauf's and general wear.

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    My question to you:

    I think Dellath has done a great job and I will most likely try and emulate him. But I wanted to check if you have alternate suggestions on how I can get this jacket to soften up, acquire deep/ 'interesting' colors?

    Thanks in advance.
     
  4. MyOtherLife

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    PipersSon, Congratulations on your purchase.
    I own a vintage black leather motorcycle jacket by Brush Fire, a manufacturer from Winnipeg, Canada.. My jacket, like yours, can stand on its own. Though I am no leather expert, I believe the thickness and toughness of the leather was intentional to provide maximum body protection should the wearer fall of their motor bike. Therefore, it would be prudent to give it occasional applications of leather lotion / conditioner. to maintain leather health and pliability.

    Because it is vintage, you'll want to apply leather lotion by hand, gently and thoroughly working the lotion into the leather. Your jacket may darken the leather while it is wet but once dry it should return to its original colour. Once dry, wipe with a terrycloth.
    Repeat if necessary or at least 4 times a year. That is what I do with my jacket.
    While I appreciate the vote of confidence I must recommend you make a new thread on this topic.
    A suggested thread title would be 'Softening a Vintage Leather Motorcycle Jacket'. There are members as you know, who are leather specialists and will probably give you better advice. Hope this helps.
     
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    MOL, thank you for your reply; as usual - based on what I have read from you elsewhere on SF plus the obvious evidence in this thread - you have been very generous in sharing your knowledge. Much appreciated.

    I think the VTG stands for vegetable tan though.
     
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    I am but a lowly servant and the honour is mine, thank you.
     
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    Mr. MOL, I am having major concerns about my new (old vtg) shell cordovan shoes. This is my first pair so do not know how these should look. I have applied conditioner and brushed them for about 10 minutes. They look great. Wore them around the house for a few minutes but noticed that where the creases are the color becomes very light. This is a concern after seeing the picture of the dry rotted pair of shell from a few weeks ago that ripped along the seam. Is the lighting of the color normal for dark colored shell or should I cut my losses before any major damage occurs rendering them worthless and look for a new pair. Thanks as always!


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    OOPS Wrong thread,
     
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    How did I miss this one...my apologies.
    I would recommed starting a new thread on shell cordovan care if one doesn't already exist. As I am no expert on anything I am unable to provide you with a reliable answer to this.
    Many leather experts here will render the best information and I look forward to learning too.



    :) Amen to that.
     
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    I can only tell you what I would do if they were mine.
    If that will be acceptable, this is what I would do:

    1) Remove the laces and take the shoes in my hands. I would feel the leather. This is to test pliability or how easily the leather bends. You don't have to be rough but, for example, bend the tongue of the shoes. See if the shell still has enough of its natural oils and strength. If you sense that it is too brittle, then do not proceed any further.

    2) If it is determined that the shell is still tough enough and pliable, I would wet a terrycloth, ring out the water, so make it damp, then apply leather lotion to the shoes and let them sit for an hour. Then wipe off any excess.

    3) Then, in a well ventilated area (or better yet, outside in daylight) wearing rubbler gloves (the kind you wash dishes with is fine) Take some Acetone on a DRY terrycloth and swiftly pass over the blackened area. If the dye has not penetrated the shell, it should come off. If the sye HAS penetrated the shell, you can try a second pass with a refreshed application of acetone on a terrycloth.
    If the colour of the shell lightens in that area (it may or may not happen on the first pass) then you'll have to do the entire shoe to maintain a consistent colour.
    DIsclaimer: Personally, I have never done this on shell but the acetone is your only hope if you can't live with the black marks, then you should be able to get most of it off.

    4) The worst that can heppen is that you have lightened the shoes and minimised the black.
    The best that can happen is to be completely successful and lose the black marks altogether but still lighten the overall shoe colour.

    5) If successful or not, you must get moisture and oils back into the leather. Shell or not, acetone wil WILL remove oils so you need to apply leather lotion or whatever special lotion you would use on shell to prevent cracking. You may have to apply a few times over 24 hours just to make sure.

    Again, this is what I would do if they were mine and only if the shell is in good strong condition.
    Before starting any project like this one, I would be at the pont of 'do it or I'll never wear them'. This is what gives the courage to experiment in that one is willing to lose the shoes to gain the knowledge. The final choice is yours ofcourse. Personally those black marks would bother me and I would proceed, but that is me being a perfectionist about it.
    You may want to contact Nick V or DWF and see what they have to say as they have far more knowledge and hands-on experience with shell.
    Be patient and get as much input as possible before deciding what course of action to take.
    Hope this helps....if you do proceed and it works, the post photos!
     
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    Thanks for the suggestions. I typically use Venetian Cream on shell (and others as well), do you think that is adequate for crack prevention or do you know of anything better?
     
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    Great news. Photos of the poppy?
    What happens when your buyer signs up here trying to find information on the rare poppy variation and its worh?
     
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    Put spoiler tags, as my question was not appropriate for this thread, so no point inflicting it on others.
    MoL I am trying to find casual shoes that I can wear to the office and am unable to find the type I want. Do you have suggestions?

    Let me first provide some context.

    Despite working in a corporate environment, I wear jeans and chinos to office about 3 out of five days. So my Lobbs, C&J and Vass come out only half the time..

    I am mostly the 'MC type' so SW&D shoes are not what I am looking for. I want 'smart and comfortable' casual shoes but not something that came out of SW&D. At the same time I would avoid suede, bluchers if it is an option (if not then it is what it is).

    Let me show you what I don't want to wear: Something that looks like this:

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    Or, at the other end of the spectrum, something that looks like this:

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    I am also not really keen on tasseled shoes, and the Yukenet/ Oak Street tyoe of boat shoes.

    I will consider the Mark McNary suedes if that's all there is (see below):

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    But here's what I would really consider buying (based on pics, not actually seen in real life). This was in the Oak Street Bootmakers thread and could be something those guys may have in the future. See the captoe on the left

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    I could also do the John Lobb 'Winner' range of shoes, but they're much more expensive than what I am prepared to spend ($1k and up). My price range is more $400 and down.

    So my questions: Generally, where should I look for the type of casual shoes I want? In specific, do you know where I can presently buy something similar to that captoe above?
     
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    PipersSon, would you kindly do me a favour?
    Create a new thread for this question and you'll get a much better consensus.
    Click to edit your post, then on your text, right-click and choose 'select all' then when all your text is highlighted, right clock on the highlightext text and select 'copy'.
    Then hit the backspace key to clear the text and save. Then open the new thread and paste the text body there.
    This is going to get you better results than one persons opinion.

    This thread here has to stay focused on resurrecting things. :) Thanks matey. Much appreciated.
     
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    No problem, MoL, will do.

    Cheers.
     

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