The Official Artisanal "streetwear" footwear (boots, shoes, sandals) thread (Guidi, CCP, Augusta, M.

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by eckblk, Jun 10, 2011.

  1. sinnedk

    sinnedk Senior member

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    3 shoes for 3 decades
     


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    hendrix Ill-proportioned

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    Is that CCP? I like those a lot.
     


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    eckblk Senior member

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    All CCP.

    Here is a pic of the insole of my Augusta ankle boots? Is this what you were asking for?

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    sinnedk Senior member

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    hendrix Ill-proportioned

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    I need to see the front of the insole. I'm looking for little "dimples" in the leather that would be an indication that the shoe is handwelted. Sometimes you can't see anyway (especially if they use a double insole or a full sockliner), so we might not be able to tell. Have a look anyway.
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    the third post explains it with some more pictures. Basically, moving the awl through the insole during hand welting makes little bumps on the surface of the insole. However, if there is a double insole or they use a full sockliner (as with Vass), you can't see the dimples .

    Machine (goodyear) welted shoes

    Machine (Blake Rapid) Constructed shoes:



    Handwelted shoes


     
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    chomeo Senior member

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    Hendrix. good info thanks!

    I just pulled out all my boots and derbies and as far as I could tell, none of the Augustas, CCPs, Carpe, and MA+ have the dimples. :) Looks like the MA+ is blake stitch. one of my Carpe is also blake stitch.
     


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    Hendrix- I'll take pictures when my A1923s come back from the cobbler, but the derbies that AREM was carrying definitely had the dimples (or at least I could feel them when my hand was inside the toebox)
     


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    sinnedk Senior member

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    FYI i just confirmed all CCP stuff is made in-house by carol w/assistance of studio staff, same as a1923
     


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    Abraxis Senior member

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    Confirmed with who?
     


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    artishard116 Senior member

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    i thought i read they were made by premiata

    (not that i care)
     
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    sinnedk Senior member

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    i have a source, dont worry about it
     


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    nahneun Uncle Nephew

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    aka source: interwebz
     


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    cyc wid it Senior member

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    How does this guy go from knowing nothing about anything to becoming the insider authority on a bunch of topics?
     


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    sinnedk Senior member

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    No


    well i read a lot, i talked to a lot of merchants, i talked to a few pals via SF and here we are
     


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    Abraxis Senior member

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    Okay whatever. Honestly, I don't care either. But I will point out that obscuring your source hardly helps your credibility.

    That said I have some internet sources too:

    "He was also very open about his process, and all of his sources and production seem to be very well-known in Italy. When other designers brag "these are made in the same factory as carpe diem" or "the same shoemaker as CCP" is because there are basically a handful of factories that make everything, and they are not exclusive. If you have designs and have money, they will take it, and you can write in all of your press releases that your clothes are made in the same factories as ma+." as posted by MikeNoveau in an excellent post summarizing his conversations with Altieri of Carpe Diem fame.

    Read more here: http://www.stylezeitgeist.com/forums/showpost.php?p=393543&postcount=999

    Won't find me regurgitating his words as gospel though because same as you he's just a person on the internet. But I wanted to share a different perspective and try and balance out unsubstantiated hype.

    Edit: You do know that retailers primarily want to sell you things right?
     
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