Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by eckblk, Jun 10, 2011.
yea its outsole, i dont remember what others are but google translate worked well for me
Thanks, I don't think anyone mentioned before that F+Bs were of sub-par quality.
My question was what's a reasonable substitute? No square-ish, bulbous, or upturned toes, no washing or pre-distressing of the leather, just a side-zip with a wrinkled vamp (and preferably an interesting zipper pull).
these are sick, someone buy them http://supertalk.superfuture.com/in...-over-leather-boots-43-lad-musician-parka-44/
guidi says they fit 41.5 not sure what exact size is http://supertalk.superfuture.com/in...fs-ro-ccp-guidi-in-aisce-drkshdw-hl-44464850/
for price point of around $500 i think a good purchase is the buttero at barneys either model is good just size down .5 http://www.barneys.com/Shoes/mens-s...?prefn1=designer&prefv1=Buttero&start=0&sz=20
more buttero in japan:
but they are overpriced there, some models are worth it
marsell at yoox:
*ask mr. moo for sizing he owns a pair.
avoid shoto, and john varvatos, both decent shoes but depreciate quickly. Guidi is great but very very tight toe box, their sizing is messy, you have to size up 2 in guidi.
i hear good things about cp combat boots but from what i hear buttero is better.
Yeah the durability thing is not the point - it's more of a bonus. In the end you buy nicer things because they're, well, nicer.
That said, the Guidis are not actually hand made. F+B probably have the same construction method. Although the guidis probably have nicer leather.
Thanks for the suggestions. I actually already have the Butteros from Barney's (sized down 2, which is pretty snug), and I've established that Marsell boots look kind of terrible on size 12 feet (at least the pair I tried on). Maybe I'll save up and keep an eye out for Guidis in a 47...unless the side-zip model has the almost-squared-off toebox that I don't really care for.
I'm not tied to the idea of only spending $500; I just want to find a boot that has the shape and features of the F+B Elf that I like in a brand that's not so thoroughly maligned.
Most Marsell boots don't look great IMO, but mine are awesome and the quality is great.
On sale if they look good they are a bargain.
Honestly, relative to other Japanese brands, the pricing on Buttero seems about right.
I don't know where the complaints about F+B leather are coming from. True, it's not Guidi or Augusta or earlier Ann quality of leather , but they're also a 1/3rd the price. I tried on a different pair (I think the 745s) and if they made them in babyfeet sizes I would have bought them. gettoasty is right - most of us have enough pairs of shoes that wearing something through is going to be a rare occurrence.
Almost everyone in this thread is used to the best when it comes to boots though and F+B just doesn't make the cut against the big boys.
I guess I'm just not hugely into the quality so much as the aesthetic aspect then. For me once you get to a certain level of construction everything past that is overbuilt/icing. I really like my Ann sidezips and InAisce lows - I still wear my Clark Malis pretty regularly and wouldn't hesitate to buy another pair.
I guarantee you this leather would hang with the big girls.
^that actually looks really legit.
those are the "slimjim - sten" from fw10. basically the elf but with a sleeker sole. From what I have gathered they use different leather for fw and ss, the boots above are my brothers pair. I bought a pair in ss11 and the leather was totally different, still nice, but it was not as thick
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