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The Official Artisanal "streetwear" footwear (boots, shoes, sandals) thread (Guidi, CCP, Augusta, M.

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Anybody able to give sizing advice on Guidi mountain / hiking boots relative to other Guidis?

I've got 795vs that fit me snug-but-well in a 41, hoping I can take the same size in hikers.
 

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Thanks! What's his address? Need to send some boots his way
 

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Anybody able to give sizing advice on Guidi mountain / hiking boots relative to other Guidis?

I've got 795vs that fit me snug-but-well in a 41, hoping I can take the same size in hikers.
Interested in this as well - not many data points out there and it seems to be a mixed bag between down 1 from normal Guidi (i.e. TTS) and normal Guidi size.....
 

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Hi guys, new member here. Really enjoyed reading through this forum, and found it to answer all my questions without having to ask them.
However I can’t get my head around this, is “horse shell cordovan” basically just “cordovan”? I recently bought these mmoriabc A_tre and the retailer said it’s cordovan, with a special finish by Altieri himself.
 

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Hi guys, new member here. Really enjoyed reading through this forum, and found it to answer all my questions without having to ask them.
However I can’t get my head around this, is “horse shell cordovan” basically just “cordovan”? I recently bought these mmoriabc A_tre and the retailer said it’s cordovan, with a special finish by Altieri himself.
oh gosh the old cordovan question.

So European retailers refer to "horse" as cordovan a lot of the times. But, most shoe places stock shoes made of shell cordovan(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shell_cordovan) which is a "leather made from the fibrous flat connective tissue (or shell) beneath the hide on the rump of the horse." M-Moira uses actual shell cordovan for all of their boots IIRC. Thus, rest assured you have shell cordovan.

IME, I had retailers tell me CCP is cordovan but cup does not use shell cordovan they use horse. Now that horse may have had a part from the horse's rump but one cannot confirm that.

If a shoe maker is claiming he used shell cordovan it should be shell for the entire shoe/boot although in some cases I've seen a mix of shell for the bottom and the upper being grain leather for a boot. Most often its not the case.

hope that helps.
 

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I might also add that you'll sometimes run into places that use "cordovan" to refer to a color, mainly the #8 burgundy that Horween is famous for. Probably less likely to come up with the shoes in this thread, though.
 

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oh gosh the old cordovan question.

So European retailers refer to "horse" as cordovan a lot of the times. But, most shoe places stock shoes made of shell cordovan(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shell_cordovan) which is a "leather made from the fibrous flat connective tissue (or shell) beneath the hide on the rump of the horse." M-Moira uses actual shell cordovan for all of their boots IIRC. Thus, rest assured you have shell cordovan.

IME, I had retailers tell me CCP is cordovan but cup does not use shell cordovan they use horse. Now that horse may have had a part from the horse's rump but one cannot confirm that.

If a shoe maker is claiming he used shell cordovan it should be shell for the entire shoe/boot although in some cases I've seen a mix of shell for the bottom and the upper being grain leather for a boot. Most often its not the case.

hope that helps.
I myself seen it being answered many times but i never paid attention to it because all my boots are kangaroo,horse, bison...,
I too was sure that it’s shell until recently I saw a few pairs made with destroyed horse leather which made me question it.
I just got in touch with the store I bought them from and was assured they’re shell, again with a “special finish”.

Thank you for your response, and great contribution to this thread.
 

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oh gosh the old cordovan question.

IME, I had retailers tell me CCP is cordovan but cup does not use shell cordovan they use horse. Now that horse may have had a part from the horse's rump but one cannot confirm that.
Old cordovan question, but apparently a very useful one, since posters here still receive entirely wrong answers and "expertise".

C.C.P. uses the following horse leather qualities:

CORS-PTC = horse front leather

LUC-PTC / SBUC-PTC / CUL-PTC / CUBS-PTC = (horse) cordovan leather

No rabbitinthehattrick: cordovan is declared for the latter qualities = cordovan is used for those leather qualities. Please...
 
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Old cordovan question, but apparently a very useful one, since posters here still receive entirely wrong answers and "expertise".

C.C.P. uses the following horse leather qualities:

CORS-PTC = horse front leather

LUC-PTC / SBUC-PTC / CUL-PTC / CUBS-PTC = (horse) cordovan leather

No rabbitinthehattrick: cordovan is declared for the latter qualities = cordovan is used for those leather qualities. Please...
Hi Samsa...

The responses were not wrong. It’s a lost in translation type of thing.

Horse Cordovan in Europe is normally thick horse which I have no doubt includes or has some of the horses rump in that leather. However, it is absolutely not shell Cordovan like horween’s shell Cordovan which is actually what MMoira uses and in reference to this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shell_cordovan.

Feel free and pass that post on to CCP and ask them about the horse they get from Poland I believe.

I am not trying to “disprove” you, ccp and lots of European places do say horse Cordovan. I’ve seen Layer-0 do the same. But they all charge a shit ton more once they use “shell Cordovan”.
 

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Also M_moria are using Horween cordovan as well now along with destroyed horse leather, and not only shell.
 

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Also M_moria are using Horween cordovan as well now along with destroyed horse leather, and not only shell.
That’s new, it used to be all she’ll cordovan but I don’t follow that designer too closely so I’ll take your word for it.
 

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