The Official Artisanal "streetwear" footwear (boots, shoes, sandals) thread (Guidi, CCP, Augusta, M.

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by eckblk, Jun 10, 2011.

  1. oulipien

    oulipien Senior member

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    Is it missing the soul because it's easy to get, or is there something else?
     


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    missing soul as in original designers and crew are not involved, missing the passion of the original carpe diem crew
     


  3. LA Guy

    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member Admin Moderator

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    They are about the same quality. At that level, Raccagni, Riri, YKK Excella, it really comes down to a matter of personal tastes. There are some differences - the teeth on the Excellas I find extremely durable, for example. But you'd be nitpicking to really find any quality differences between them. They are also the same style.
     


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    oulipien Senior member

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    We already know that the original designers aren't involved, but is it just a stipulation from that fact that there's some "soul" missing, or is there actually something you can point to in a pair of the old shoes and say "look, this isn't in the new stuff"? If the first thing someone says after "soul's missing" is something about how invested you had to be in tracking the stuff down before because it was so hard to find, or whatever, then it seems like the primary driver of the judgment is romanticization.
     


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    sinnedk Senior member

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    I wouldn't be able to tell you that having never owned other CDiem.
     


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    eckblk Senior member

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    FWIW i don't think 99.9% of the population who buy this stuff will be able to tell the difference between the og stuff and re-issues.

    And yes- I've many of hours tracking down OG Cdiem, so there is quite bit of romanticization here but still I support the AW17 stuff... can't say the same about SS18 from the rumors floating around.
     


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    eckblk Senior member

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    For you guys in Vienna....

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  8. LA Guy

    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member Admin Moderator

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    For this, I use the Chinese Box test. If you got these out of a box, and did not know about any of the drama, could you tell?
     


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    Like @LA Guy said, YKK Excella is durable and good enough for most projects. I've experienced Raccagni and to be frank, they're very similar to RiRi, except that RiRi offers more varieties, including precious metal finishes. Some people may tell you RiRi is smoother but it depends on many things, such as the finish of the zipper. You can do the same with YKK by adding oil to it.
     


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    sinnedk Senior member

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    I've never had any issues with Ykk so I mildly favor them.
     


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    eckblk Senior member

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    Hell, no
     


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    sinnedk Senior member

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    If the resident Carpe Diem expert says the above then I'm at ease.
     


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    could of sworn i read that the leather was sourced from guidi, i can check with PNP if you like to get clarification
     


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    Junhashimotonagoya said it was waxed Horween for horse on one instagram post, and the calf leather is from Tempesti tannery according to fascinate. I don't know if any of those statements is actually true though.
     


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