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***The official Alden thread *** Share enthusiasm, reviews, sizing, advice, and photos.

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by jet, Nov 3, 2008.

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  1. bdeuce22

    bdeuce22 Senior member

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    I'd contact Alden direct. Email them pictures, where you bought them, etc
     
  2. heprof

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    I too was going to pull the trigger on the Roy, but don't want to have my cash sitting somewhere for 6 months before delivery. Now am seriously considering the PT from leather soul after seeing the pics on this thread and thinking that its worth the extra cash for NOT having to wait, plus you get cordovan.

    Am I correct in assuming that the general shape of these two boots is about the same--plain toe?

    Are the main differences, besides the leather quality, that the Roy has the reverse Goodyear welt and the extra stitching by the ankle, making it appear to look more substantial and perhaps casual?
     
  3. Get Smart

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    For you boot guys, are you using trees? Looks like there's some serious creasing going on.

    I just use regular cedar shoe trees in my boots.
     
  4. bdeuce22

    bdeuce22 Senior member

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    How significantly marked down are the Alden seconds?

    Enough to reeeally second guess buying firsts. I have bought two seconds and can not find the flaws.
     
  5. rick

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    And where are people finding them? I looked on shoemart but wasn't able to find any seconds listings.

    they don't list the seconds, you have to sign up to get them sent to you, or you can call joe one of the owners of shoemart and he will send them to you. they go very fast good luck.
     
  6. bdeuce22

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    They send out a nice little email flyer of what's available in your size. Then you either call or email in the order. It's a good system.
     
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    I just bought a pair of Indys, and I noticed something a bit funny. I'm going to try my best to explain it, so please bear with me!

    If I put the left boot on the floor and push the heel flat to the ground, the forefoot area of the outsole lifts about 1/4" from the ground. The right shoe does not do this, and the heel and forefoot rest evenly on the floor. Do I need to be worried about the left boot, or is this something that will right itself over time?
     
  8. mechanical pencil

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    I just bought some seconds from the Shoemart in cordovan. I see two small imperfections, a small stitching gap at the back and a slightly torn leather lining. These don't really bother me.

    What does bother me is the seeming variation in cordovan quality between the 2 shoes. One is doing that nice cordovan wave thing and the other is duller and developing little creases, almost like calf.

    Anyone else ever have this problem?

    I'm thinking of trying to send them back......
     
  9. bdeuce22

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    Hmm. Post pictures.
     
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    I just bought some seconds from the Shoemart in cordovan. I see two small imperfections, a small stitching gap at the back and a slightly torn leather lining. These don't really bother me.

    What does bother me is the seeming variation in cordovan quality between the 2 shoes. One is doing that nice cordovan wave thing and the other is duller and developing little creases, almost like calf.

    Anyone else ever have this problem?

    I'm thinking of trying to send them back......


    those problems seem like big deals ... makes me never wanna purchase seconds
     
  11. Get Smart

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    isnt that the risk in buying seconds? not sure why they'd take them back since they were knowingly sold/bought as not being right in some way
     
  12. bdeuce22

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    Yah. I believe they accept returns so if you weren't happy with the color variation I wouldbe sent them back. That is the inherent danger of buying seconds
     
  13. texas_jack

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    Man, I've been reading this thread too much. Just ordered the Ravello shell wingtip boots from Shoemart. Can't wait. [​IMG]
    i just got the exact same shoes in lowtop form from Leather Soul. LOVE IT
     
  14. dport86

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    There's no free lunch.

    I've bought 3 pairs of seconds from Shoemart, and while I find them to offer very attentive and reponsive service, beware the much proclaimed observation that you can't tell the difference between seconds and firsts (or that they are all some minor cosmetic flaw).

    For e.g. I had a cracked shell shoe (which they did take back). This is a major flaw which happens when cordovan is stretched too tight on the last (there is a German doc showing Horween cordovan being cracked at the AE factory). It was not disclosed and I had to pay for shipping both ways. I've also had uneven stitching and flaws that went almost all the way through the leather.

    The other thing you don't factor in when purchasing shoes from Shoemart or any other online retailer is the difficulty of fitting Aldens, with all their different lasts. Despite all their best efforts it is simply impossible for Shoemart to fit you properly over the phone. I purchased a pair of boots wore them, found them a little big but couldn't return them (once I'd worn them). Later, I found that the size recommended were in a last that I should have sized 1/2 size down on. I also received a pair of seconds that were not the size I ordered (or marked on the box). I had worn them once before I realized this--lesson to check everything before you wear internet ordered shoes. Shoemart did not offer to take them back. Lastly, as with all handsewn shoes, there can be slight size variations even between same-sized shoes (which I've experienced in Alden-made Brooks Brothers in the store).

    Note that even if you are able to return your Shoemart seconds, you pay shipping both ways with shoemart on seconds, making it a potentially $40 mistake.

    Although you can potentially get a great deal on Alden seconds, and though for some this makes shells potentially within reach, be aware of the downside. My 3 pairs were all good deals but in the end I was somewhat unsatisfied with each of them. For that reason, the last pair of shells I bought were full price cigar chukkas from Alden SF. It was worth it to be able to try them on and examine them in person. And I'm still loving them.

    I'm still tempted every time I see the Shoemart flyer, but $400 (incl. shipping) is still expensive for a shoe that doesn't quite work for you.

    Caveat emptor
     
  15. william

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    There's no free lunch.

    I've bought 3 pairs of seconds from Shoemart, and while I find them to offer very attentive and reponsive service, beware the much proclaimed observation that you can't tell the difference between seconds and firsts (or that they are all some minor cosmetic flaw).

    For e.g. I had a cracked shell shoe (which they did take back). This is a major flaw which happens when cordovan is stretched too tight on the last (there is a German doc showing Horween cordovan being cracked at the AE factory). It was not disclosed and I had to pay for shipping both ways. I've also had uneven stitching and flaws that went almost all the way through the leather.

    The other thing you don't factor in when purchasing shoes from Shoemart or any other online retailer is the difficulty of fitting Aldens, with all their different lasts. Despite all their best efforts it is simply impossible for Shoemart to fit you properly over the phone. I purchased a pair of boots wore them, found them a little big but couldn't return them (once I'd worn them). Later, I found that the size recommended were in a last that I should have sized 1/2 size down on. I also received a pair of seconds that were not the size I ordered (or marked on the box). I had worn them once before I realized this--lesson to check everything before you wear internet ordered shoes. Shoemart did not offer to take them back. Lastly, as with all handsewn shoes, there can be slight size variations even between same-sized shoes (which I've experienced in Alden-made Brooks Brothers in the store).

    Note that even if you are able to return your Shoemart seconds, you pay shipping both ways with shoemart on seconds, making it a potentially $40 mistake.

    Although you can potentially get a great deal on Alden seconds, and though for some this makes shells potentially within reach, be aware of the downside. My 3 pairs were all good deals but in the end I was somewhat unsatisfied with each of them. For that reason, the last pair of shells I bought were full price cigar chukkas from Alden SF. It was worth it to be able to try them on and examine them in person. And I'm still loving them.

    I'm still tempted every time I see the Shoemart flyer, but $400 (incl. shipping) is still expensive for a shoe that doesn't quite work for you.

    Caveat emptor


    Good advice here. I've spent a lot of time and money buying and the re-selling sale items in an effort to "save" money..
     
  16. whodini

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    I just use regular cedar shoe trees in my boots.
    I wasn't talking about using boot trees (I'm using regular cedar trees, too), just wondering if those people were using any trees at all. The creasing looked serious.
     
  17. KitAkira

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    Enough to reeeally second guess buying firsts. I have bought two seconds and can not find the flaws.
    Good to know, I keep looking and doing a "well for just a little more I can get ..." ending up in me wanting some Cigar shell at >$600 lol
    They send out a nice little email flyer of what's available in your size. Then you either call or email in the order. It's a good system.
    Is there some special newsletter to sign up for or is it the standard one?
    I just bought a pair of Indys, and I noticed something a bit funny. I'm going to try my best to explain it, so please bear with me! If I put the left boot on the floor and push the heel flat to the ground, the forefoot area of the outsole lifts about 1/4" from the ground. The right shoe does not do this, and the heel and forefoot rest evenly on the floor. Do I need to be worried about the left boot, or is this something that will right itself over time?
    I tried on a few pairs and they were like this, think it's the heel pad (not sure if it'll go away as one wears them).
     
  18. bdeuce22

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    I honestly don't remember signing up for anything. Maybe they put my email in the system when I ordered my shoes.

    I'd email them and asked to be put on
     
  19. Tripleterror

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    Just got my Ravello Wingtip Boots from Shoemart, Superb
    I have noticed a small 'flat' area about 1/2" in diameter where the cordovan isn't as 'shiny' as the rest of the boot.
    Is this just a natural thing or can it be rectified by polishing?
    I'm a bit reluctant to do anything until I get some advice.
    Simon
     
  20. randomkoreandude

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    if anyone wants my pre-order for the Alden x Context Tankers in black in size 8.5D let me know ... they are shipping early-mid Dec. so just in 2 weeks or so.

    they are sold out but i cant get a refund from context so someone can just take it from me.

    thanks
     
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