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***The official Alden thread *** Share enthusiasm, reviews, sizing, advice, and photos.

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by jet, Nov 3, 2008.

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  1. mosy

    mosy Senior member

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    Thanks everyone for your input.

    In addition to the scarcity of the dark brown shell Aldens (including cigar), I've noticed that those that do exist all seem to have the contrasting welt and sole (light tan color), adding to the casualness in my opinion. I prefer a non-contrasting welt and sole. Barney's has an Alden make-up in dark brown with a non-contrasted welt and sole (see pic below), but they are very limited in size.

    Barney's:

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    Does anyone else sell this Alden makeup?

    If not, (and don't shoot me for bringing this up here), what about the Suit Supply dark brown shell blucher. Is that worthwhile whatsoever?

    Suit Supply:

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    Thanks in advance for your guidance.
     
  2. peppercorn78

    peppercorn78 Senior member

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    Who makes the suitsupply shoes?
     
  3. Watchman1

    Watchman1 Senior member

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    mosy,

    You are looking for a pair like this:

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    The left pair is a cigar LWB with dark edge. There was recently a run of these done by Alden DC. IDK when will be the next time these will be made.

    I would strongly suggest you try the C&J Marlow in brown cordovan. That is an incredible shoe in its own right and is perhaps one of the most iconic shoes here on SF.
     
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    Watchman1 Senior member

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    I don't know who makes them but I know who does not...they do not use Horween shell cordovan.

    Which is not the end of the world.

    I just have no experience whatsoever with these.
     
  5. mosy

    mosy Senior member

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    Ortigni in Italy
     
  6. mosy

    mosy Senior member

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    correct, not Horween. They use Italian Horween, not sure which company. But the shoes are made by a company called Ortigni.
     
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    Watchman1 Senior member

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    mosy,

    You mean Italian shell cordovan...not Italian Horween. [​IMG]

    They look like cool shoes...but they are not Alden's...

    So, you must decide my friend.

    Why don't you just have AE completely copy the Alden you want down to the T?
     
  8. mosy

    mosy Senior member

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    Yes! That's the shoe I'm interested in - either exactly like that or same color upper and sole in a PTB.
    The Marlow is beautiful as well, but I really want a longwing, and prefer the slightly fuller last shape of the Barrie. (Also, it's even more expensive, if ya know what i mean)
     
  9. mosy

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    Watchman - does anyone make that shoe in dark brown calf, without contrasting welt and sole? I know JCrew has a makeup - but that brown seems really really dark. Also, what about in PTB? Everything I come across even in dark brown calf seems to have the light welt and sole.
     
  10. mosy

    mosy Senior member

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    yes of course, slip of the brain there - italian shell!! lol
     
  11. peppercorn78

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    If you can't find the Alden you want, there are other alternatives. Carmina makes a gorgeous LWB on the Detroit last, though in the lighter cognac shell. And Vass could make you a budapester or longwing on the clunky Peter 2, 3636, or Budapest lasts in dark cognac, which is basically dark brown shell.
     
  12. mosy

    mosy Senior member

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    Quote: I can do that? Which AE last is most comparable to the Barrie? Also, just how customized can I get? And how much will such customization cost?
     
  13. Watchman1

    Watchman1 Senior member

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    mosy,

    We have to break this news to you gently my friend.

    This is how the Alden game works.

    1. Find the shoe you are interested in buying.
    2. Find a shop that makes them.
    3. Get on the list until the next run.
    4. Wait and excruciating amount of time. (1-2 yrs.)
    4. Buy up Alden shoes and boots in your size...especially the rare ones because you don't know when and if you will ever get them again.
    5. Become good friends with @mdubs
    6. Find other Alden homeboys in your size sitting on rare models and buy them up.
    7. Follow this thread religiously.

    As you can imagine...I had fun making this list.

    However, know that there is a good bit of truth in every bit of sarcasm.

    Thanks.
     
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  14. peppercorn78

    peppercorn78 Senior member

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    Check out @mdubs AE MTO thread. You can customize just about anything for MSRP (650 for shell) + 115 markup.

    The LWB (MacNeil) is made on the slightly pointier than Barrie 7 last and the PTB (Leeds) is on the round-toe 1 last.
     
  15. mosy

    mosy Senior member

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    lol, i hear ya loud and clear.
     
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    Very well said & very informative information
     
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    mosy Senior member

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    Could I get the perforations on a longwing to be more like the Alden LWB vs the MacNeil's on an AE MTO?
     
  18. peppercorn78

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    This is getting off-topic, and I would recommend reading through the AE MTO thread. But my experience is they won't alter the pattern for you, except to perhaps remove things like perfs or medallions.
     
  19. JR Magat

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    Bolded up top is what has helped me build a pretty good collection of rare Alden's. Finding some SF buddies in your size is nice where they'll message you if they're selling a pair.

    I will add:
    8. eBay. Follow searches like "Alden Cigar" and if one pops up in your size at a reasonable price (keyword: reasonable), then pounce!

    I've been lucky to score my Alden Cigar Chukkas (great price), Ravello NSTs (reasonable), and Ravello shortwings (reasonable) on eBay. On AE though, I never did the MTO route but I'd assume it's limited to AE existing patterns/lasts only, correct? For example, I can't make a MacNeil look like a Alden LWB or make a MacNeil on a different last? I never considered it because of the premium... I'd rather buy a pair of Aldens ;)
     
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    Off topic, but you could do the McNeil pattern on a 1 last most likely. Last changes are on a case by case basis.
     
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