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This was never meant to be a union vs non-union discussion, as I tried to make clear when I first mentioned that Alden's factory is unionized.Hey Bakes, how does greater collective bargaining power impact Alden's quality control? I'm not sure if I remember what the original issue was that brought us to union v. non-unionization. I think it was QC. IMO, I don't think unionized workers necessarily make for poorer QC.
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I've heard that many at the factory wear Aldens and enjoy them. I'd bet they have some pride in what they do.
Looking great DonL! Merry Christmas my friend and happy new year...
The splotch on those tankers definitely look egregious. I would request the same options you have mentioned earlier. That is perfectly reasonable. Leffot is usually exceptional with their customer care and service. It's a shame they will not accommodate you.Shawnc, your view of flaws and defects is pretty much my own and how I approach deciding whether to keep a pair of boots/shoes or not. I too have blotches (of dye I guess) on my #8 boots but they're pretty much only noticeable in bright sunlight so I just get on with wearing and enjoying them.
I have purchased from Leffot and have not had any problems. I sincerely hope that they are able to do right for you as they do carry some pretty nice makeups and selfishly, I would hesitate to give them my business in the future if they begin to tarnish their reputation with situations like this.
Quote: It would probably help if Kathy submitted the order with a number she was comfortable with in various sizes, and just did a lottery for each size. At least the boot would get made and some people from the sign-up would walk away happy.
I preordered the flat welt black longwings from Leffot. They were supposed to arrive in the fall. Alden simply "forgot" to make E widths, so my shoes never came with the rest of the D widths. Did I get pissed off and start exploring other cordovan options? No, I switched my deposit to another preorder at Leffot and looked for black cordovan shoes at other retailers because at the end of the day, when Alden delivers, the product is great. Until enough customers like me leave the brand, issues will persist
I preordered the flat welt black longwings from Leffot. They were supposed to arrive in the fall. Alden simply "forgot" to make E widths, so my shoes never came with the rest of the D widths. Did I get pissed off and start exploring other cordovan options? No, I switched my deposit to another preorder at Leffot and looked for black cordovan shoes at other retailers because at the end of the day, when Alden delivers, the product is great. Until enough customers like me leave the brand, issues will persist
Hmmmm, switched your preorder deposit? They wouldn't let me do that. Oh well, that's another story. Somewhat related, I picked up a pair of shell Florsheim LWB's off of EBAY ($125) that were delivered today. My goal was to get a pair of beaters that I could kick around in the Pittsburgh snow. A couple of points that make this relevant. First, I continue to be amazed by the uniqueness of a horses ass. These shoes have got to be at least 10 years old (and likely closer to 20). I was already trying to decide which product I was going to use to clean them up and hope for the best. After wiping them down, I could hear Mac's voice and I just started brushing. After less than 5 minutes, these shoes looked great. There was no need for product. Ultimately I did add a little Reno cordovan cream as I wanted to moisturize the shoe only because I didn't think they had been properly cared for over the last 5-10 years. Boy did this make them glow.
The other issue of relevance is that given the current discussion and issue I have with my Leffot tankers, I have examined these shoes with a fine-tooth comb and I cannot find one single flaw. Not a loose stitch, not a speck of uneven dye, nothing. These good ole made in the USA Florsheims's appear to be perfect in every way. And man, these things are tanks. Could just be luck of the draw but making excuses for what seems to be an increasing amount of quality issues is IMO, giving Alden a free pass. Again, just my opinion.
Here are a few pic's of the Florsheims's. I added spolier alerts due to the shoes not being Alden's.