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***The official Alden thread *** Share enthusiasm, reviews, sizing, advice, and photos.

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by jet, Nov 3, 2008.

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  1. Dewey

    Dewey Distinguished Member

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    Is the chromexcel stretchy? Is that why it fits bigger?
     


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    jasonfoote303 Senior Member

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    My paranoia can probably be explained by my anticipation of a pair of calf boots which I sized the same as my cordovan boots (although Barrie vs. Trubalance last). Sizing was not even a concern until the calf vs. cordovan, welt, sole, etc. topic was brought up.
    dude, your new boots are going to fit you just fine. don't worry about it!
     


  3. jasonfoote303

    jasonfoote303 Senior Member

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    ^^ I've had those for quite some time now and they get some decent use, I'll try to post up some more pics of them soon.

    those are my most recent pair and I love them! they have the potential to be some true favorites. it's a little too hot to wear them in SF right now but I can't wait to get back into them.

    I did a lot of looking at your pair when I was deciding on them. thanks for the picture!

    I'd love to see what your pair looks like now!
     


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    Like I said, 90% of people don't adjust sizes based on style... I don't really want to get too into this because I don't want to confuse people even more than they already are about Alden lasts! But, for examples sake... I have a wingtip blucher...shell cordovan, regular welt that fits tighter than another version in suede with a reverse welt. I wear both in the same size without any complaints. I also have a shell cordovan chukka that I can fit comfortably in but also have a shell cordovan NST blucher in the same size that is slightly tighter. I also wear both in the same size without any complaints. What really messes me up is wearing my bespoke Cleverleys then trying on a pair of Aldens. [​IMG]
    Thanks, Tom. As you said there is no need to get into this further because everybody's mileage vary after all. However, it seems to me that the different fit that you get in the examples you gave is due (i) in regard of the first example (shell wingtip blucher w/ regular welt vs. suede blucher w/ reverse welt), to the difference in the upper; and (ii) in regard of the second example (shell chukka vs. shell NST blucher), to boot form vs shoe form and/or number of eyelets. In other words, I think that exterior patterns such as handsewn or machine stitching and/or perforations do not or in fact should not affect sizing for anybody. IMHO the factors that may include sizing are: - leather upper (calf vs. shell vs. suede/reverse calf vs. -perhaps- oily leathers) - boot form vs shoe form - different lasts - blucher vs balmoral form - Even the quarters can be effective in determining the correct size. Note the difference in where the quarters of the below Alden PTBs end: http://www.blackbirdballard.com/Alde...hoe_15082.html http://www.blackbirdballard.com/Alde...Tan_16500.html - number of eyelets-- I suppose one may take different sizes in shell cordovan Barrie lasted stock Alden chukkas and your 6-eyelet shell chukkas, if they were produced in Barrie instead of Grant. - and lastly, type of welt -- I did not know this could make difference. Thanks for letting us know Tom.
     


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    You are over thinking this and heading down the street to madness. If it were that easy than all of this information would be posted. I have several shoes on the Barrie last, with different welts, soles and made from different leathers. They all fit me the same size. You completely over looked the facts (Tom says 90% of people don't adjust size because of these factors) and went straight for your fears and preconceived notions.

    Don’t be that guy.


    Very good, Ahab!
    I also wear the same size (in the same last) regardless of the leather, style, etc.
    Order, try, keep or return - no worries, no madness.
     


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    Does anyone know which shoe last the longwings in the very middle of the picture is? It's definitely not on the Barrie last cause the one on the right looks more like it's on the Barrie last. This one has more of a round toe box, which I like.
    [​IMG]
     


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    Does anyone know which shoe last the longwings in the very middle of the picture is? It's definitely not on the Barrie last cause the one on the right looks more like it's on the Barrie last. This one has more of a round toe box, which I like.

    Could be the Plaza last
     


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    Does anyone know which shoe last the longwings in the very middle of the picture is? It's definitely not on the Barrie last cause the one on the right looks more like it's on the Barrie last. This one has more of a round toe box, which I like.


    I'm thinking Modified Last.
     


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    I also think it is a Modified last. I have a wing tip on the modified and while it's not in front of me for comparison, that's my gut.

    Does anyone know which shoe last the longwings in the very middle of the picture is? It's definitely not on the Barrie last cause the one on the right looks more like it's on the Barrie last. This one has more of a round toe box, which I like.
     


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    I'm thinking Modified Last.


    Modified seems like a reasonable guess, but it could also be one of the other unusual lasts they use in Japan.
     


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    Does anyone know which shoe last the longwings in the very middle of the picture is? It's definitely not on the Barrie last cause the one on the right looks more like it's on the Barrie last. This one has more of a round toe box, which I like.

    I read Japanese. That longwing pair is Barrie last. 17yrs. Owned by Mr. Chiwaki, chairman of Lacota (chief importer of Alden to Japan). It was a gift from the CEO of Alden at that time.
     


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    Btw these are supposively the Aldens worn by fashion industry celebrities.


    Top right plaintoe Barrie last, SC, 20yrs.

    Center Left, Roy Boot, True-Balance last, Chromexel, 1 yr old, owned by Samuel Barker (Owner, Context)

    Center right, Longwing, Barry Last, SC, 3 yrs old, owned by Jack O'conner, J.Crew in-house stylist
     


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    Btw these are supposively the Aldens worn by fashion industry celebrities.


    Top right plaintoe Barrie last, SC, 20yrs.

    Center Left, Roy Boot, True-Balance last, Chromexel, 1 yr old, owned by Samuel Barker (Owner, Context)

    Center right, Longwing, Barry Last, SC, 3 yrs old, owned by Jack O'conner, J.Crew in-house stylist


    Those boys need some shoe trees!
     


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    Those boys need some shoe trees!
    They aren't SF posters. [​IMG]
     


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    also interesting is: considering how aggressively the Modified Last has been marketed and recommended (by fashion pundits) in Japan over the past years, none of their favorite pairs (represented here) are made on the Modified Last.
     


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