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#4s are king for for me. Sorry guys. I like the reddish brown more than than the purplish brown of #8
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My friend, I agree with most of what you said. My only issue is with your assertion/assumption that people buy shell because "it will go the extra mile." I don't think people necessarily buy shell for its stronger more durable quality (at the very least I don't). Good year welted shoes calf or shell can last a very long time when cared for properly. As I said earlier, the way in which it creases and develops its own characteristic patina plays a large role for me. In any case, one does have to wonder why some of the best shoe makers in the world (J.Lobb, E. Green, etc...) produce so little of it, or none at all.
Nice cigars Don L. Linen slacks maybe? Looking good.
great summer look donl
BeSpif and MrDV -- I promise I didn't steal your comments. I suppose I should read ahead before posting. Great minds think alike!Very nice DonL... The sockless look with linen (I think?) pants is a solid summer staple. Wear in great health my friend!
Are tassels ever made on a different last? The Aberdeen (in a loafer) is just too tight for my wide toes and low instep.
Look at their website.
Their prices for firsts are list. Just like pretty much everywhere else for pretty much every Alden.
Enjoy the visit. I've never had the pleasure of visiting TSM in person.
RTP, never use the words "promise" and "steal" in the same sentence, maybe "I have no recollection of said misappropriation" would be less incriminating.BeSpif - I promise I didn't steal your comments.
Quote: MoneyWS, thanks for bringing this article to the thread. As to the issue at hand (durability of shell cordovan), I may be mistaken, but the author of the piece seems to be equating shell cordovan with horse hide, which would be incorrect, right? The World War I boots were made form horse hide, not shell. Does shell cordovan possess the same durability qualities as horse hide? I don't know, but maybe you or someone else well-read in the industry could chime in to clarify.
As to the article addressing demand, a very limited # of tanneries processing shell, and the entry of a reputable British tannery entering the mix, this is certainly encouraging. Sounds like higher end British shoe makers want to get into the shell game (no pun intended). With Joseph Clayton & Sons moving to produce shell, maybe more tanneries will see the profitability and do the same. Could this mean more available shell? Reduction in price due to a potentially greater supply? I suppose all of this is contingent upon the availability of horses @rses. (BTW, Washingotn DC and American politics have an abundance, but that's another issue for another thread). I guess we shall see...
MoneyWS, thanks for bringing this article to the thread. As to the issue at hand (durability of shell cordovan), I may be mistaken, but the author of the piece seems to be equating shell cordovan with horse hide, which would be incorrect, right? The World War I boots were made form horse hide, not shell. Does shell cordovan possess the same durability qualities as horse hide? I don't know, but maybe you or someone else well-read in the industry could chime in to clarify.
As to the article addressing demand, a very limited # of tanneries processing shell, and the entry of a reputable British tannery entering the mix, this is certainly encouraging. Sounds like higher end British shoe makers want to get into the shell game (no pun intended). With Joseph Clayton & Sons moving to produce shell, maybe more tanneries will see the profitability and do the same. Could this mean more available shell? Reduction in price due to a potentially greater supply? I suppose all of this is contingent upon the availability of horses @rses. (BTW, Washingotn DC and American politics have an abundance, but that's another issue for another thread). I guess we shall see...
Why not?I had noticed that as well. I think it was just a poor choice of words, rather than ignorance of the author and his sources. He calls them cordovan later in the paragraph. I don't think Edward Green would be unaware of the difference either. Horsehide is definitely not equal to shell cordovan. The rest of the hide is used for other purposes, just as other leathers are. I don't know of any special durability that regular horsehide has over cowhide, and I don't think the statistic regarding the war boots would exist if they were simply regular horsehide.
Why not?
While I think your poor-choice-of-words response could be true, I find it hard to believe that shell cordovan boots were mass produced for WWI soldiers given only one pair of shoes could come from one horse. It seems much more plausible that horse hides were used as the article actually reports. (I do recognize that I could be wrong here.) Also, I don't think EG desires to move into the shell market for its durability, but rather for its growing demand. Shells could be as delicate as silk, and EG would make them into shoes if there is demand at that price level. In any case, this was a nice piece to read.
Their prices for firsts are list. Just like pretty much everywhere else for pretty much every Alden.
Enjoy the visit. I've never had the pleasure of visiting TSM in person.