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***The official Alden thread *** Share enthusiasm, reviews, sizing, advice, and photos.

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by jet, Nov 3, 2008.

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  1. halfnhalfnhalf

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    Nice offer at J Crew! Thanks for the info gents.

    Just placed an order for color 8 captoe boots in size 8H. Shipping is in May but at $533 how can I complain, right?:happy:
     
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    I just got an email from Leffot announcing that the Cooney Boot is back.
     
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    Limited sizes are left, though

    I may get in on the next preorder
     
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    It's such a great boot. I recommend it.
     
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    She said she couldn't tell me.
     
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    Cordovan looks dressy to me...
     
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    Today's dress boots

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    Alden 4065 shell cordovan
     
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    I believe that is more due do the style than the material. Personally.
     
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    I'm surprised you wear such dressy boots with such casual pants, Namor.... :D
     
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    True, but you read often across the forum (in other boot threads, in the Classic Menswear forum, etc) that cordovan is "less formal" than calf, "not ideal for dress shoes" or that it's not a "dress leather." Alden has been making dress shoes out of cordovan for bankers and lawyers for 70 years (first the tassel loafer, then balmorals and such), so I don't really understand this somewhat common comment.
     
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    Tifosi! Mah 4065 brotha, I even gave them a polish. Check out that bulled toe!
     
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    ^^Agreed. The 'rule' that shell is less dressy is illogical. Those same sites will say a key factor in telling level of dress is smoothness and shininess of the shoe but then say oh except for shell, because... it's shell.

    cite: http://oldleathershoe.com/wordpress/?p=304
     
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    Yo, thanks for yesterday's complement. Both pants are from NN.07. Yesterday was the simon slim fit twill cotton trouser and today is the James slim fit selvedge over dyed denim
     
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    The reason is that shell cordovan is historically a workwear leather, so it is less dressy than calf.

    That does not mean that it cannot be used in dress shoes. Formality is a spectrum; I was merely saying that shell falls lower on that spectrum than calf
     
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    I know...I almost got blinded!
     
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    "Cordovan is less dressy than calf"

    If you put an Alden black cordovan balmoral captoe and something like an Allen Edmond Park Avenue in black calfskin in front of people, 90% will say the cordovan is "dressier" because it will look shinier. To most people, the 9016 will look "nicer" than the Park Avenue and therefore be considered "dressier."

    "Formality" is a bit of a different concept as some will say that the cordovan may be too "glowy," but very few people will really care. I will admit that black calfskin in chiseled, sleek lasts (Edward Green chelsea, whatever) will usually look more "formal" than almost any cordovan, but that doesn't make cordovan any less credible as a "dress leather."

    I would argue in some models of boots, cordovan (such as the beloved captoe on grant or plaza) can look undeniably "dressier" than calfskin.Very long ago, cordovan may have been a "workwear" shoe (I don't really know what workwear is even after spending three years on the forum), but since the 1940s, cordovan has been used in dress shoes.

    I'm not going after you specifically on this, I just think some of the styleforum conventional wisdom on this is incorrect
     
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    Your profile say Toronto and yet the website says they can't ship Aldens internationally?
    How'd you manage this great deal!
     
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